Ktek-

The latikas shooting, if it's the one I am thinking of, was totally ridiculous. Non-leo folks probably watch that and think it happens all the time, or with great frequency. It doesn't. There is only one, or maybe two reasons why that stupid biatch isn't in jail. I'm sure you know why.

That is probably the one, and no, I dont think it happens all the time and I do understand why she is still on the job. The point I was trying to make was, the DA should have been all over her instead of defending her actions. While that may have made him a few brownie points with certain groups, it tends to alienate those that are normally Pro LEO. That is an extreme case, but LEOs do tend to close ranks even around bad apples because the Us Vs Them mentallity sets in.

That particular case is more of an issue of PC gone awry then police corruption.



Depends on what part of the country you work in. Not saying it doesn't happen. Definitely not my experience as a cop. Good cops don't want to be associated with bad apples, and some folks are so scared at even a hint of a coverup that they go the other way to the extreme.

I am referring more to the internet. What do you think would happen here, on SOCNET or LF if I posted some case and said they should fry the LEO? Like the one with the SF Studs?

Wanna find out?

I don't know, I don't mess around with cops, though for a while after I got a fast sports car, I did get stopped a lot. I am older now, slowed down a bit, maintain SA, and I guess look like a responsible citizen.

If I get pulled over, and I am doing something wrong, I'll take the cite, if there is no alternative. If I have an argument, I/my lawyer can make it in court. Roadside is not the place or time to get ignorant and rude. I do know some of the sensitive issues, and try to follow the rules for a non-threatening experience for both of us, since some might find me intimidating.

BTW, why would a cop risk legal or civil action by issuing an unwarranted ass beating, just because the citizen is running his mouth?

I was stopped a couple of months ago after I picked up a new car (2004 model, not many around then), the officer asked for the registration (but not my ID), looked over it to check the car more closely and told me to have a nice evening. That would have irritated me a few years back, I just find it humorous now.

When I was younger here in NC, you could mess with the local city cops, or the deputies, but the NC Highway Patrol were serious and brooked no BS. Things were different back then though.

TR

I could guess the outcome.

We could pick another case to discuss if you want.

I'm a little pooped-The SF saturation wore me out! ;)

Isn't this the same guy I got into a debate with over the supposed "WACO conspiracy"? Weren't you arguing about how the feds covered that up to protect their owneven though it involved multiple agencies including some military SMU advisors according to congretional testimony? Or is it only the feds in the DEA, FBI, ATF, and possibly military advisors that are crooked and well practiced liars and coverup artists? LOL

Couldn't pass it up... it was glaring so bright in the nightime sky that I had to call you out on it. LOL :p

TR,

I'm in agreement with your last post. As for....

"BTW, why would a cop risk legal or civil action by issuing an unwarranted ass beating, just because the citizen is running his mouth?"

In higher crime areas the cops tend to be a little rougher. They don't put up with BS.

I've been stopped/ticketed for some pretty chincy shit. Some agencies have reputations as ticket writers/being a-holes, as you may know. A lot of state patrol/highway patrol units come to mind.

I've chewed out cops who have acted unprofessional AND had written me a citation. I figured, If It's already been written, I might as well let him know how I feel if he's being an ass.

Examples-Pulled over for 2 mph over and no other reason....written at 5 over, etc.

I'm digressing now. I just wanted to add that I don't claim to speak for all cops. I can only go off my experiences and those of my friends that are still cops.

Please don't tell me you are the anti-tinfoiler from socnet????? :rolleyes:


Yeah, I think the ATF is all fucked up, and yeah, I think there were coverups at Ruby Ridge and WACO. Big difference between local and fed law enforcement. Or city/county and state, for that matter.

Suconmaballs-

Your inbox is full bro!

:D

All very true, but remember we are talking to each other from all over the globe. Others may not have had as nice an experience with LEOs as you or I have had. Hard to apply what you know from yours, to what someone else has seen in his. I think the vast majority of LEOs are good people, and most PDs are good also. However, when you get large PDs like NY with 39K Officers you will have bad apples in any group that large, and with some small underbudgeted, understaffed, undertrained, non accredited PDs you can get some real winners in there. When they started Floridas certification program it was amazing. Small PDs that never did a single background check on any Officers had to start checking all of them. IIRC one of the city PDs near me found out the Chief was a convicted child molester when his came back. :eek: That of course was the purpose of the program, to raise the level of professionalism, and to do away with this reputation. They still have a long battle to fight, and in some areas they have made huge strides in doing so. Some have not, and until they do it will continue to hurt even the good officers and PDs. I still blame a lot of it on the people and politicians, they dont take law enforcement seriously enough IMO. Of course this varies greatly from community to community, some outstanding very professional small town PDs out there, and some outstanding big city ones too. The turds however are still out there, a lot less then there used to be, but still damaging the rep of fine upstanding professional LEOs every where. Ever been to Jessup, GA? LOL

Ktek-

I have had my ass kicked (unprovoked) by a more then a few socal cops. While I agree with your post, I can't say that my lEO experience as a non-leo has been "nice". ;)

Will this thread ever end?

lol

LOL..
That name crap ain't funny!!

I am working on it. I had them all archived like TS dictated in knuckledragger thread. I thought that freed up the PM count??? Oh well, so much for my computer skills.

Anyway, I will delete some of my old ones. Someone on Socnet wrote me and he wants his tinhat back.

Watch the language cop apologist, there are ladies present.

One of the only times I can recall LEOs being openly disgusted with another LEO was the Trooper Latika incident. Even on Officer.com they were all over her and wished she would hang. Unfortunately that is the only time I can recall not even one LEO defending an obviously bad apple, but that was a rather extreme incident, and all caught on tape. :D

http://ada.oklahoman.net/ramgen/real...er_shooting.rm

No prob NDD.....but Sacamuelas
ain't exactly a lady. Why I gotta be a "cop apologist"? I prefer "coperator" or "profiler" or something to that extent. ;)

Well no, but he is a girl with a man's gun that measures his shot groups with a yardstick from BB&B.

"Copulator" work for you, or would you prefer "Excessive Force Employer"?:D

TR

Definitely Excessive Force Employer, Sir.

I found this pic of TR and NDD instructing on Naval maneuvers..... :D

(Suits up in Kevlar)

:munchin

Good God that was quick.. I step away to eat with the Mrs. and I get ambushed by the vocabulary sniper(NDD). BE careful WM, NDD is real touchy on which cool guy words you use and to whom. Some sort of inferiority complex issue I am working with him on. LOL

Dude, How did you hijack my computer and post that crap? I would never post something like that.......

This, from a kid with a big pistol, and a big stick (the wooden kind, not the tiny one he uses the microscope to examine).

Glad that my dental appointments are GTG for a while, they probably have a secret commo system or something for problem patients.

TR

I can do special avatars as well as titles. I am multi-tasking!

His name wasn't Sneaky for nothing. :)

woobie master, on the phone outside his palatial estate.

TR

I KNEW you would abuse your powers eventually.

LOL

I was hoping the Team Sergeant still had a "lock" on my title. HaHa

BULLY..

I am getting ready.. :lifter

Heheheheheee........:D

I know you guys just don't feel the same without a Ragnar to raz!

TR,

Scary thing is Sir, that's prolly your neighbor!

Good job, I am impressed you migrant worker serf...
You keep that up and I may hire your gringo A$$ to work in one of my sweatshops. LOL

That wasn't abuse. Keep it up and I'll show you abuse.:D

Sneaky was always referred to as the master of camoflauge by his teammates...here he is getting ready to ambush Barney.....

NDD:

Sometimes, it is useful to select one of the problem children and make him an example to the others on how NOT to behave.

TR

No Sir, a lesson is not necessary!

:munchin

I nominate Woobie... :munchin

Buddy is only half the word.........



Blue Falcon..........

That will make you $h*t your pants! :D

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Despite recent changes in 2nd Batt policy, former members have decided to keep the traditional "High and Tight" haircut to protest the change.

NDD, gracias for the avatar, but what is it?

Nice one, sucamajules!