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Roguish Lawyer 08-23-2004 19:41

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Originally posted by The Reaper
No time for pro-US war movies?

Okay, where is the real RL, Doppleganger?

Just thought I would turn the tables on you, legal beagle.

TR

Yes, I appear to be in the doghouse today. :eek: LOL

brewmonkey 08-23-2004 19:47

Rumspringer?


For a minute I thought it might be something the Navy does but then I realized there is no "P" in the word.

The Reaper 08-23-2004 19:56

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Originally posted by brewmonkey
Rumspringer?

For a minute I thought it might be something the Navy does but then I realized there is no "P" in the word.

The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.

Rumspringer is when the Amish youth go out to visit the World and decide if they want to remain Amish, or move to the modern world.

Keeping up so far?

TR

Roguish Lawyer 08-23-2004 19:57

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Originally posted by The Reaper
The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.
Well I did see Kingpin.

Roguish Lawyer 08-23-2004 19:59

Seriously, my favorite movie as a kid was Midway. I saw it literally more than 100 times. Used to really piss people off saying the lines before the characters spoke them.

brewmonkey 08-23-2004 20:05

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Originally posted by The Reaper
The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.

Rumspringer is when the Amish youth go out to visit the World and decide if they want to remain Amish, or move to the modern world.

Keeping up so far?

TR

Roger. I had to look it up.

brewmonkey 08-23-2004 20:07

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Seriously, my favorite movie as a kid was Midway. I saw it literally more than 100 times. Used to really piss people off saying the lines before the characters spoke them.
Well at least tell us you have seen Tora! Tora! Tora!


I mean we are getting to the point where I would go for just having seen 1941. :D

King Pin is a freaking riot.


"Sha said handsome, not handless!"

Roguish Lawyer 08-23-2004 20:11

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Originally posted by brewmonkey
Well at least tell us you have seen Tora! Tora! Tora!


I mean we are getting to the point where I would go for just having seen 1941. :D

Yep, seen 'em both.

What is this, the "movies RL has and has not seen" thread?

I haven't seen anyone discuss the movie, really.

What's with Mr. Sulu's ability to deliver all those Montagnards? Wouldn't they really have killed him given the chance?

Sdiver 08-24-2004 14:23

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I have now seen the film.
Okay....now that you've seen the film.....it's QUIZ time.

These questions will be "easy". The more you watch the film, the harder the questions become.

1) Who was the Bathroom named after and why?
2) Why did Team Sergeant Mulldoon like to blow things up.
3) What was the name of Ham-chunk's pal? (and it wasn't Peterson)
4) What did Peterson "Believe" in?
5) What was JW's (Col Kirby's) call sign?

Guy 08-24-2004 18:33

Quote:

Originally posted by The Reaper
The implication was that RL must have been Amish, to have missed out on so many quality, pro-American films.

Rumspringer is when the Amish youth go out to visit the World and decide if they want to remain Amish, or move to the modern world.

Keeping up so far?

TR

Isn't that a reality TV show now...Amish in Los Angeles or something?

brownapple 08-24-2004 18:51

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Originally posted by Sdiver
Okay....now that you've seen the film.....it's QUIZ time.

These questions will be "easy". The more you watch the film, the harder the questions become.

1) Who was the Bathroom named after and why?
2) Why did Team Sergeant Mulldoon like to blow things up.
3) What was the name of Ham-chunk's pal? (and it wasn't Peterson)
4) What did Peterson "Believe" in?
5) What was JW's (Col Kirby's) call sign?

Damn, you are being easy on him...

The Reaper 08-24-2004 19:03

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Originally posted by Guy
Isn't that a reality TV show now...Amish in Los Angeles or something?
I believe that it is.

TR

Bill Harsey 08-24-2004 19:09

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Originally posted by Guy
Isn't that a reality TV show now...Amish in Los Angeles or something?
Amish in Oakland would be better.

Sdiver 08-25-2004 13:32

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Originally posted by Greenhat
Damn, you are being easy on him...
Well sir, he has only seen the movie once :rolleyes: , as he watches it more and more and more the questions will become harder.:D

Bravo1-3 08-25-2004 13:50

So are you going to send him a copy of "Mr. Roberts" now too?

Better yet, are you going to hook a brother up with a copy of "The Green Berets"? We don't get AMC that I'm aware of, and I keep looking.

Sdiver 08-25-2004 14:01

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Originally posted by Bravo1-3
So are you going to send him a copy of "Mr. Roberts" now too?

Better yet, are you going to hook a brother up with a copy of "The Green Berets"? We don't get AMC that I'm aware of, and I keep looking.

I figured I'd save the "Mr. Roberts" for someone else. Besides...he still has to watch "The Green Berets" a few dozen more times.;)

You don't have Fred Meyers down in your AO? If not.....I might be able to swing something for ya.....sheezzzz:D

Roguish Lawyer 08-25-2004 14:08

BTW, S --

That disc you bought me was DEFECTIVE! The second side would not play. Fortunately, I had the Netflix copy I could watch. Problem solved. :D

Sdiver 08-25-2004 14:11

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
BTW, S --

That disc you bought me was DEFECTIVE! The second side would not play. Fortunately, I had the Netflix copy I could watch. Problem solved. :D

WHAT !!!!:eek:

Send it back...I'll swap it out.

Roguish Lawyer 08-25-2004 14:17

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Originally posted by Sdiver
WHAT !!!!:eek:

Send it back...I'll swap it out.

I said problem solved. No further questions on this topic, please. :D :cool: :lifter

Sdiver 08-26-2004 01:43

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I said problem solved. No further questions on this topic, please. :D
Very Well....But you still need to answer the 5 questions that I've already posted.

Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....:munchin

12B4S 12-25-2004 04:57

The movie
 
K, old thread... been trying to catch up for a month or so now. Read through this one and Y'all are dragging stuff out of my ancient mind. Yeah in the flick Mr Wayne didn't hook up. There was, besides that, a few other things in the movie........ one was this; the Team was returning from thier last mission, in the movie (believe it was a snatch OP) Peter'san bought it..... anyway as the movie went, they were returning just about sunset....... and ...... well..... that was the EAST coast of VN..... South China Sea......... ;) Great flick...... but ohhhhhhh hollywood .... and nope ... I'm not cappin' that place,city,town.....

Doc 12-25-2004 12:51

A long time ago I read the book "Shooting Star" which was about John Wayne. Part of the book dealt with the making of the movie "The Green Berets".

I will try and summarize what I remember about my reading. Any error is due to the mind and not the heart.

John Wayne was a conservative. He didn't fit in well in Hollywood back in the 1960's. He visited Vietnam and decided to make a movie based on what was going on over there and to more importantly, support the troops. In the interim either before or after he made "The Green Berets", he made a documentary with several SF Vietnam Veterans in it describing their side of what was occuring overseas along with John Wayne's colorful vocabulary placed in for good measure. If anyone has a copy of it, please PM me. I saw it one time years ago and was not able to tape it.

Back to my summation of the book. John Wayne was DX with lung cancer before he made the movie and drew the sympathy of even his most hardened critics in the liberal groups. He could have came into the fold and all would have been forgiven, but that wasn't John Wayne. He decided to say screw them and their sympathy by making the movie. Some things were more important than himself. He never looked back.

He was only working on one lung due to cancer when he made the movie. He chewed tobacco and worked like a man possessed according to fellow actors.

John Wayne said that in the 1940's the government and hollywood went out of their way to promote the war effort by helping movie producers with actual soldiers playing parts and technical assistance. Not this time around. This was an unpopular war they said to which he replied, "which war isn't?" This lack of support may help viewers understand the technical quality of the film. Critic's will see things their way, those that understand what John Wayne was trying to do and support his efforts will see it in another light.

The Colonel at the Airborne School was an actual Army Officer. My Uncle worked for him long ago.

John Wayne IMHO represented America very well. I sadly think that no one can replace him.

John Wayne and Martha Rae (sp?) were the only two people fully authorized to wear the Green Beret that did not complete the course. They are as much a Special Forces Soldier as anyone that received the order to "Don Berets" in our book.

Thanks John and Martha for sticking by us when it wasn't Politically Correct to do so. I'll see you on the other side.

Sorry for the rant, stepping off the soap box.

Doc

brownapple 12-25-2004 22:21

I like your soap box, Doc. Well said.

Not only was the Colonel a real Colonel, those were real Airborne Candidates who ran by and got to get the thrill of their life responding to John Wayne with "All the Way". My first Team Sergeant was one of those in that shuffle.

That scene always struck me as amusing, since you go from the Gabriel demonstration to the little confrontation with Specialist Peterson in the 5th Group area (and not in the 7th Group area), all of which would clearly place it at FT Bragg to the Airborne candidates, clearly at FT Benning.

I understand someone pointed this out to John Wayne. He didn't care. It gave him an opportunity to put real soldiers on screen and he wanted to do that.

Sdiver 07-24-2006 20:49

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Originally Posted by Sdiver
Okay....now that you've seen the film.....it's QUIZ time.

These questions will be "easy". The more you watch the film, the harder the questions become.

1) Who was the Bathroom named after and why?
2) Why did Team Sergeant Mulldoon like to blow things up.
3) What was the name of Ham-chunk's pal? (and it wasn't Peterson)
4) What did Peterson "Believe" in?
5) What was JW's (Col Kirby's) call sign?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdiver
Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....Tick-Tock....:munchin


Okay R.L.

It's been almost TWO years and you still haven't answered these questions.

and......

How many times have you seen the movie??? :munchin

rubberneck 07-24-2006 20:54

As an interesting bit of trivia Aldo Ray (DaRe), who played Sgt Muldoon, was a UDT vet that served in WWII and saw action in Okinawa.

x SF med 07-25-2006 06:42

Hey RL-
Have you at least seen "the Bridge at Toko-Ri" - and when are you going to answer? You never even asked for discovery time or a continuance.



And TR - "Horror show" on the nekulturny ref - I don't think it the other guys caught it - haven't seen "A Clockwork Orange" in a looooong time.

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 07:11

I am too busy to answer these questions now, but one of these days I will watch it again and see if I can answer the questions.

I did attempt to watch The Frogmen the other day. Couldn't get into it and turned it off. :rolleyes:

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 07:11

And no, Doc, I have not seen that other movie.

Goggles Pizano 07-25-2006 07:27

Damn RL, two years and still no answers? Shame on you lad! ;)

Sdiver 07-25-2006 08:32

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
And no, Doc, I have not seen that other movie.

...SIGH....:rolleyes:

Well Doc,
Looks as if you're going to have to put your "Cuba" OP on hold. I see a bigger cause, that needs doing.

The "Education of R.L."......

So far, the list of "Educational" tapes that he needs to see, is.....

Mr. Roberts
The Green Berets
The Frogmen
The Bridge at Toko-Ri
The Green Berets

and I'm going to venture to guess....

Battleground
The Bridge Over the River Kwai
The Guadalcanal Diaries
Sgt. York
To Hell and Back


Have a seat R.L. .....there's a Nice Glass of Moo Juice, on the other end for you.:D :munchin

x SF med 07-25-2006 09:04

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
And no, Doc, I have not seen that other movie.

The Horror, the Horror!!!

The Guns of Navarrone?
Anzio?
the Flying Leathernecks?

I can't even think of all the great WWII movies out there.

Tubbs 07-25-2006 10:07

Would I be banned from the site if I admitted that I have never watched "The Green Berets"?

x SF med 07-25-2006 10:30

We need an entrance exam to get on the site!!! :eek: Just basic stuff like:

minimal grammar, spelling and punctuation
5 questions on the movie the Green Berets
5 questions on some key figures from SF history - like COL Aaron Bank, COL Nick Rowe, COL Bob Howard, etc.
A few SA questions


Nothing tough, but jeez, joining a Special Forces site without having a clue about the movie the Green Berets.....:confused:

Just to weed out the oxygen thieves.

Tubbs - you are redeemable, you now have to rent or buy the Green Berets and watch it 5 times, then take the test originally posted for RL.

The Reaper 07-25-2006 10:38

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
We need an entrance exam to get on the site!!! :eek: Just basic stuff like:

minimal grammar, spelling and punctuation
5 questions on the movie the Green Berets
5 questions on some key figures from SF history - like COL Aaron Bank, COL Nick Nowe...

Who is this COL Nick Nowe that you refer to?

TR

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 10:48

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
We need an entrance exam to get on the site!!! :eek: Just basic stuff like:

minimal grammar, spelling and punctuation
5 questions on the movie the Green Berets
5 questions on some key figures from SF history - like COL Aaron Bank, COL Nick Nowe, COL Bob Howard, etc.
A few SA questions


Nothing tough, but jeez, joining a Special Forces site without having a clue about the movie the Green Berets.....:confused:

Just to weed out the oxygen thieves.

Tubbs - you are redeemable, you now have to rent or buy the Green Berets and watch it 5 times, then take the test originally posted for RL.

I guess QPs don't have to be able to spell COL Rowe's name . . . :rolleyes: :p

x SF med 07-25-2006 10:50

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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Who is this COL Nick Nowe that you refer to?

TR

Failed one part of the spelling test - actually the typing test - edited. How the hell I got to "N" when it should have been an "R" I will never figure out, kind of like Ranger Land Nav - "Dammit, I know I'm in the right place, the map is wrong!!"

Penace through PT will be performed after work.

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 10:51

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
Failed one part of the spelling test - actually the typing test - edited. How the hell I got to "N" when it should have been an "R" I will never figure out, kind of like Ranger Land Nav - "Dammit, I know I'm in the right place, the map is wrong!!"

Pennace through PT will be performed after work.

Strike two.

x SF med 07-25-2006 10:55

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Strike two.

Bad day for my fat fingers - I double tapped the "n" in penance.

RL - just take the GB test - so I can leave this thread, please.

The Reaper 07-25-2006 11:09

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Strike two.

No charge for the top cover and diversionary effort, Counselor.

All I ask is that you watch the movie.:D

TR

Roguish Lawyer 07-25-2006 11:09

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Originally Posted by x_sf_med
Bad day for my fat fingers - I double tapped the "n" in penance.

RL - just take the GB test - so I can leave this thread, please.

Good thing I'm not a Delta, because then I might ask you whether you really were a Bravo . . . :eek: ;)


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