They have one! Among all of the new buildings, they kept one. I asked my Cadre after SUT and he filled me in as to what and why it's there... I thought it was a shed for lawn equipment or something:).

Too bad they can't show a two hour program on the rest of the Q course(Two Years in Hell)... because SFAS was easy now that I look back in comparison to the other.... two years... cough... cough.(and TR told me that after I so proudly posted that I had been "selected" on here :D). Back to studying for the Medic Course and keeping the chub off...

Nothing at all like I can remember...............;)

Big Teddy :munchin

We graduated 13 out of 125 that started Phase One together and had a dozen or so medics finish up Phase 3 with us. NO RECYCLES! Fail ANY task and you were GONE!

Changed even more since I left in 1978! :eek:

Same here...they did allow recycles into the class, though...

Yeah, I didn't get the impression they really wanted us either...;)

Until we'd done it

I just watched it with my wife and son. It seemed well put together enough. The puking reminded me of some PT sessions we have done. I did not know the land nav was a cumulative 50 miles. Is that how it has always been? A good SGT from 19th group told me the first time through selection he WVed because of all the unknown waiting around. I imagine there was not a lot of that in the 2 week version. HE also said that the best thing physically to remember is "legs and lungs". Looked about right...

It looked like a well put together show. I almost, at one point, felt sorry for the
team 4 PL.

That one team that used thier rucks to carry the downed pilot and the way they spelled each other by sliding in and out, was interesting.

I cringed when the commentator asked if there had ever been any women QP's.
I was thrilled to see they sidestepped that pandora's box nicely.

The Nasty Nick, looks like great fun.

Unfortunatley I missed the show last night. I've been looking all over for when they might replay it but with no luck. Does anybody have any info about when it might be coming on again?

Thanks.

There are no future airings scheduled at this time. It should be on youtube very soon though.

Yeah, I too missed the show due to head up fourth point of contact. Will have to go to Mackall and see the changes. Went through in 67-68, did not even know what a retest or recycle was then, and know a few changes happened when I was last there in 96. Heard the place is unrecognizable from what I remember.

Actually, MMDV...my schedule shows "Who was Jesus"...it shows 2 Weeks in hell was on last night at 2300...

I recorded Two Weeks in Hell and let my brother, a RI down at 6th RTB for swamp phase, watch it and he said that the SF assessors did not yell one bit. They stood there with there arms crossed not saying a word. He said they were probably doing that for the cameras.

I quote word for word his exact comment....."I can't believe they're documenting this!"

I watched this last night (DVR) and couldn't believe one of my best friend's little brothers was front and center several times as a candidate. I knew "Caleb" made it, but it was a nice surprise to see him in the pit, on the STAR Course, and at the white board. I hadn't realized that he was there during the filming.

I also couldn't believe "they" allowed this to be documented, but thought it was very well done, still left a lot to the imagination, and showed how few really make it.

I guess there isn't enough drama for most American audiences unless there's a bunch of yelling going on. I would prefer to see it as it actually is. I think most of the people interested in watching it, would feel the same way.

Perhaps the yelling draws in a few more channel surfers.

Great show the other night. Saw one of my friends that I ride bikes with. Was cool that I knew someone from there. You guys do a great job and I hold you all in high regard. Thanks for all you do and the sacrifices you make. Keep up the hard work..

Actually, more of them appeared to be using their Air Force hand warmers than crossing their arms.

Pretty funny when you see someone chewing ass with their hands in their pockets.

TR

thinking outside the box
 

On the star navigation course, a candidate was walking on the road which is against the rules (roadkill). When he got caught the SF assessor asked the candidate for his roster number. The candidate shot his cluster flare at the cadre and escape into the tree line. Now when everyone returned to the RV candidates were asked to show their clusters. One might think this would ruin ones SF career, but he was allowed to continue his interview. The reason being.... Thinking outside of the box. Thats the kind of stuff SF look for. He also received a major minus.:D

You were not the only one that thought that. :D

Where did you hear this story?

Just FYI, it is pretty hard for a tired, worn-out student with a rubber weapon, GPS locator, a reflective vest, and 50-70 pounds on his back to run into the woods blindly and escape from a freshly rested cadre member who knows the AO intimately, is carrying no load, has access to an ATV, and who is wearing NVGs.

TR

Right up there with reindeer antlers - shoulda run it by Snopes or PolitiFactcheck first! :p

Richard

My thoughts exactly...

Brother went through a year and half ago. I recorded and watch it with him last night and when a candidate had got caught on the road he pointed at the screen and told me the story.

Maybe escape is not the correct wording... Blatantly walked into the tree line.

Didnt know they gave major minus at selection :rolleyes:... Yeah, I dont think they do.

Sometimes, people tell stories that are not factual or may have been embellished.

While I was dealing with SFAS, if you were a roadkill who fired pyro at a cadre member and tried to escape, you would have been run down, thumped, out of the course, NTRed, and recommended for UCMJ pretty quickly.

I am formally throwing the BS flag on this one. Will be more than happy to call the cadre and inquire on your brother's behalf, if you want.

TR

I love hearing people talk about "thinking outside the box." It seems those who talk the most are those who cant manage to think inside the box, attempting to use it as a defense for poorly thought out ideas/decisions...

Also, I would hold off on deciding what it is we are looking for until such time you understand a lil more about us.


Crip

That story was pretty universally known among the 18X candidates in 2007. It seemed it happened in the class before the storyteller's buddy, no matter which class that buddy had been in.

I emailed Discovery, and this is what they replied (I missed it as well):

Dear Viewer,

Thank you for contacting Discovery Channel.

Two Weeks In Hell is currently scheduled to re-air on January 14th at 8
p.m. EST.

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www.discovery.com, then click on TV Schedule. Our schedules are published
for the current and following month. If you are not able to locate the
programming you are looking for, we recommend checking back periodically to
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HTH

Question to the QPs...

No rank, no HOAHs, but during team week, are candidates drawn to the inclination to pull the rank card in situations where shit has hit the fan and no one has any control? Team 4 was ok according to the cadre and then the good idea fairly came in and jacked it up. IOW, people wanted to input their .02 and contribute to the confusion as a result. If a candidate was tapped as PL and made it known that his decisions would stand and he alone would be accountable for them, how would that go down in SFAS? Also, do senior NCOs or officers announce themselves quietly and naturally stand out or is that discouraged?

Correct me if I am wrong, which I probably am, but it would seem that those with leadership experience would on average, be able to untangle team 4 type situations and thus accomplish the mission.

Thank you for your service and time.

sfas stories
 

Sounds like the story in my class, except he ran into the woods and when the Cadre asked for his roster number all he heard was an e-tool squeking open. Same stories differant times.

Ditto!:D

I enjoyed watching the show and the glimpse it gave into the process of becoming a QP. As others have pointed out, while I was watching I thought that the show might reveal a lot to upcoming students and wondered if it could hurt the process. I almost kicked myself when I reminded myself who was teaching the class. Something tells me the cadre have a pretty big bag of tricks. Finally, I could not help but wonder if some of the cadre featured walk the halls of ps.com.

I like that there was no rank and the no Hooahs. "Hooah" can get really annoying. "Hooah" what they teach you in basic training..."don't think, just say hooah".

No rank helps to avoid credentialism.

I wonder if the guy that lost his weapon got selected? :eek:

Very diplomatically put. :D
Who said talking to G chiefs doesn't give you valuable experience in tactful, interpersonal communications. :D

Some of us tend to blurt out, "Oh Bullshit!";)

Show up and find out.

We are not going to give away all the keys to the process...

Crip

What's a "hooah" ???

I will tell you having served 20 years I never said "hooah"......:rolleyes: Then again I never used the word "operator" when referring to Special Forces soldiers.

I still can't believe kids were bringing contraband like ripped fuel and thinking they could get away with it. I couldn't help but think- What idiots!

Google not working?

Crip

There are people posting on this thread that are excellent examples of why we have a selection and assessment process.

Some of you would probably be on the truck headed back to Bragg before the first 24 hours were passed.

Trust me, after watching over 40 classes, you get a sense of these things.

TR