No problem Tony, hopefully I'll get some good info from the guys that are going.

Phil

Phil:

The batteries finally went or the sight? If a EOTech is crapping out after a year, the Army should consider renting them instead of buying them, :)

Here is a try at attaching a picture of my rifle with a C-More side mounted. Can't say as I particularly care for the C-More but until I find something that works better I will probably keep it in place. It is smaller than most dot sights and has taken the cold / wet conditions here surprisingly well.

Gene

Gene,

Nice set up! I haven't had the chance to use one of the CMore optics yet. It seems to have a lower profile than the EOTech. That was a concern of mine when I went to the two sight method. The Aimpoint is a great optic but I thought that it was too large to have hanging way out on the rail.

I went to the EOTech web page today and read the FAQ on the holosight. (When in doubt read the directions) There are a few things I want to try before I pronounce the sight as dead. The optic would turn off on recoil and on the web site they said that it could be the batteries. I just replaced the batteries the day before, however, the batteries could have been bad. It also mentioned to remove the batteries and wait a few minutes to let the electronics zero out. I was so busy the other day on the range that I was unable to properly evaluate the problem (cursing or threatening the optic doesn't count :eek: ) So, I'll give both those COA's a try tomorrow.

Phil

Phil I'm definitly curious about the Docter Military model. At Botach Tactical they sell the Docter red dot for $295 and they have a option for an upgrade to the military model + $400. This thing should be bullet proof. Also they claim 5 year battery life. Ok....??

I would just advise that you order from Botach at your own peril.

Some have had success with them, but most of those I know who have dealt with them (including myself) have not been happy.

TR

Reaper: I've dealt with them a few times most of the time I had no problems. The only real complaint I have is that if they are out of an item or no longer handling it, they tend to be slow in responding about it and usually you have to ask them what's going on.

I have had them lie to me about availability, charge my credit card before having the item in stock, fail to deliver (even after charging my card) and generally ignore my questions and requests for follow-up.

I finally had to deny the charges with my CCD bank to get a refund.

After the second time, I decided not to give them any more chances to screw me.

Your experience appears to be different. Caveat Emptor.

TR

Docter Optics...
 

Greetings all,

I recently picked up a Docter Optic and used it during a Carbine Operator class at Blackwater but I must warn you all, call and get verbal confirmation that they have the sight in stock.

I went through hoops trying to get one. Apparently the US Distro of the sight folded up it's tents about 3 months ago and they are near impossible to actually find. I was trying to get the $300 version and was only able to find 1 of the $600 version, so that's what I opted with.

j

Picked up a 512 this week, mounted and taking it to the range this weekend to sight in and work out. I'm pleased so far - obligatory pics *still learning* :lifter

Very intriguing idea. I have problems with my right eye, so I'm thinking about trying a setup like that. Does it make zeroing more of a challenge ?

Bob1984:

The purpose of a side mounted dot sight is for use at ranges where the optic won't do well. Very short ranges. The shooter cants the rifle to pick up his dot sight. Take my word for it, it works better than trying to find a very big and very close target with a magnified optic.

You cant the rifle to pick up the dot sight. Zero the dot sight with the rifle canted and you won't have any problems.

In your case, you are looking at using such a set up as an offset sight. In other words, you will retain the rifle in a vertical attitude while shooting. I have seen such sights on some target rifles where the shooter is right handed with a very bad right eye. Also, this was the set up used on the M-1C and D Garands as they loaded from the top.

Depending on your intended use (target size and range), you may have to adjust windage with elevation for exact zeros.

Gene

Makes a lot of sense to me and thank you for the information.