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Team Sergeant 08-10-2005 10:45

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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I don't think anyone is badmouthing the H&K as a handgun, I think the real complaints are with the U.S. arm of the company itself and its business practices.


TR

Sir,

I really do not care if someone with "genuine" personal experience had problems with a weapons system or company and posts a complaint.

What I have a problem with is people running their mouth that have 2nd-3rd hand knowledge of a certain weapon system or companies and posts a complaint based only on rumor and not 1st hand experience.

There are a considerable number of weapon related internet forums where the weapon novices can post their opinions no matter how inexperienced or creditable they may be. They are third rate as to their creditability, content and members. I do not think this is the type of weapons forum we want on ProfesionalSoldiers.com.

TS

Scotty 08-10-2005 11:58

Thanks for the responses, guys. I agree with most of the comments, especially considering that the weapon is about a $3K hunk of gun. Col, when you say you use Mobil synthetic I ASSume you're talking the motor oil? I use it in all my vehicles and if you are having luck on your weapon I may give it a shot.

The gunsmith that I bought it from is very accessible and I will take it to him for his input. Could be that the spring in it is weak, etc, as the slide isn't coming to full closure on some of the rounds after constant fire. Partial gumming/bad spring combo?

Gene, thanks for the loading tip. I'm still a relatively new loader and use the 231 powder exclusively. I use cast semi-wadcutter rounds from a company called Beanies, mostly because after thousands of loads, I've not come across one defect in his bullets. In my competition Kimber, I lightened the springs and the loads to keep the weapon more controlable. I'll play with your suggested load and see what happens!

I love my Glock, it's never failed me. I miss my USP-C like I miss my kinky college girlfriend. Will replace it within the month. Possibly the girlfriend too. :) I never minded the trigger on it at all and was constantly shooting 3-4" groups at 25yds with it. Right out of the box.

I like the 1911 for IDPA mostly because I'm keeping up with the Jones'. Both the guys I shoot with got into the CDP class, and I love the competition.

I guess it's "for every tool a function".

Scotty

PS - TS, Guy says that you need to have (EDIT - BY "have" I mean TEACH!) a class on proper firearm usage. He can't stop talking about the day you guys shot together! :D

Bravo1-3 08-10-2005 12:28

Hi, my name is Jason, and I was a 1911 addict... :D

My personal preference now is the CZ-97. The first round double-action trigger stinks, but other than that I have no complaints. I have had one issue with the gun so far; I managed to chip the end off of the ejector. I sent it back to CZ and had the gun back within 2 weeks (along with a new magazine compliments of CZ for my trouble). I've fired in the neighborhood of 10,000 rounds through it and it's as tight as the day I got it.

That said, I'm going to agree with Pattaya's statement about a pistol being a means to fight your way to a bigger gun.

The Reaper 08-10-2005 12:30

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Originally Posted by Scotty
Thanks for the responses, guys. I agree with most of the comments, especially considering that the weapon is about a $3K hunk of gun. Col, when you say you use Mobil synthetic I ASSume you're talking the motor oil? I use it in all my vehicles and if you are having luck on your weapon I may give it a shot.

I have used a bunch of different lubes, including the Mobil right off the dipstick when I left my oil at home one day. IIRC, the AMU uses it as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty
The gunsmith that I bought it from is very accessible and I will take it to him for his input. Could be that the spring in it is weak, etc, as the slide isn't coming to full closure on some of the rounds after constant fire. Partial gumming/bad spring combo?

More likely weak rounds, crud, and tight tolerances. The gun should have been set up for the ammo you are going to be shooting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty
I love my Glock, it's never failed me. I miss my USP-C like I miss my kinky college girlfriend. Will replace it within the month. Possibly the girlfriend too. :) I never minded the trigger on it at all and was constantly shooting 3-4" groups at 25yds with it. Right out of the box.

Need more details about the kinky GF. By PM of course.

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Originally Posted by Scotty
PS - TS, Guy says that you need to have a class on proper firearm usage. He can't stop talking about the day you guys shot together! :D

Oh shit, now you went and did it! Telling the TS that he needs more firearms training is definitely bold.

TR

Scotty 08-10-2005 12:42

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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Oh shit, now you went and did it! Telling the TS that he needs more firearms training is definitely bold. TR

Damn TR! Trying to get me into trouble?! :D I edited it.

As for the kinky gf, it's a subject best discussed over Beam shots at the GB club or a Hooters... I'll see if I can't dig up a picture. She was a heart-stopper.

I've got some Castrol Syntec sitting around the house somewhere, might give a drop or two to the machinery and see what happens...

Scotty

The Reaper 08-10-2005 12:51

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Originally Posted by Scotty
I've got some Castrol Syntec sitting around the house somewhere, might give a drop or two to the machinery and see what happens...

Scotty

Note that you can't edit my quote. :D

Make sure that the slide rails, the locking lug recesses, the barrel link and the bushing (if you have them) are all clean and lubricated.

TR

Team Sergeant 08-10-2005 13:21

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Originally Posted by Scotty
PS - TS, Guy says that you need to have (EDIT - BY "have" I mean TEACH!) a class on proper firearm usage. He can't stop talking about the day you guys shot together! :D

Guy just has a thing for white guys with well defined fore arms.... ;)

Find me a class room full of LEO's or military and I'll be more than happy to teach!

TS

Tuukka 08-10-2005 14:07

Regarding custom/race guns, i have a factory STI Edge in .40 S&W bought last Autumn, with which i have now put about 2.5K rounds through.

On past experiences with the this companys products, i have not regretted my decision. I have learned that there are some that are a bit more sensitive on the load specifications, my pistol runs equally well on factory ammo (S&B 230gr FMJ) and reloads that are checked with the chamber, after all it is a race gun with tight tolerances.

Some problems that i have seen here with custom, not factory, weapons around here can be traced to the builder.

Of course the Edges and other similar pistols cycle smoother when lubed well.

I do have a quite well worn HK USP that would be the #1 choice to grab...


Good to see you here Scotty !

The Reaper 08-10-2005 14:19

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Originally Posted by Tuukka
I do have a quite well worn HK USP that would be the #1 choice to grab...

Tuukka:

Are you sucking up here? :D

TR

Tuukka 08-10-2005 14:28

Well, i´ve had it for about 7 years. It goes bang every time i pull the trigger and had the features at the time that suited me.

Like i said, if i would have to depend my life on one of the pistols i have, it would be the USP.

Peregrino 08-10-2005 14:39

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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Tuukka:

Are you sucking up here? :D

TR

I just want to know when S&B is going to start importing the 230 gr. FMJ .40 S&W ammo here to the States. Not that I would want to shoot any of it mind you. ;) Peregrino

Roguish Lawyer 08-10-2005 14:45

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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Tuukka:

Are you sucking up here? :D

TR

Certainly not to you!

The Reaper 08-10-2005 14:47

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer
Certainly not to you!

Did I imply that?

TR

Tuukka 08-10-2005 14:49

Peregrino, sharp eye. That would obviously be 180grainers.

But i do shoot the S&B 230gr in my Colt..

Gene Econ 08-10-2005 21:08

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
(I will not discuss the training involved to employ a 1911 with confidence and competence!)

TS:

He, he, he. Go right ahead. I am sure our experiences are dramatically similar, particularly with an issued arms room .45 and issued ball.

Oh yes, I have three 1911s and love all of them. I am just happy that I don't have to deal with arms room .45s and limited quantities of issued ball anymore.

Gene


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