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Trapper John 06-15-2013 08:11

SDiver- Are you going to post the answer to this one? Will there be prizes like the last time? I'm willing to give BrushOkie the nipple ring I got from the last one.

BO - It'll look good on ya and the chicks think it's hot! :D

MR2 06-15-2013 08:53

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 511406)
BO - It'll look good on ya and the chicks think it's hot! :D

There you go, bringing up ole snaggletooth again.

Trapper John 06-15-2013 09:07

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 511413)
There you go, bringing up ole snaggletooth again.

Can't get her off your mind, huh? What's been seen can't be unseen.:D

longrange1947 06-15-2013 11:08

K OD? :munchin :D

Sdiver 06-15-2013 11:47

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 511406)
SDiver- Are you going to post the answer to this one? Will there be prizes like the last time? I'm willing to give BrushOkie the nipple ring I got from the last one.

It's funny you should mention this Trap. It's still being discussed over on my other board. Some of the replies have been, shall we say .... interesting. Some of the strip interpretations have ranged from A-flutter, to SVT, but the majority of them are saying A-fib c RVR. (Sorry Brush, you're the only one reading a 2nd degree block.)

But yes, as I said above, the majority of the interpretations are A-fib c RVR.
Treatment would be,O2 4L, IV NS, fluid bolus 250cc to get B/P up (and that might bring back rate to sinus), if not look at cardioversion.

I'll let ya know what's determined once it's posted.

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 511433)
K OD? :munchin

Oh look, a late entry. :p

SooooOOOOOoooooo Hyperkalemia. Part of the "H's and T's" protocol .....
http://www.rcpals.com/downloads/oct4...CLSandPALS.htm

..... anyone else seeing peaked T's ????

and go .......

longrange1947 06-15-2013 12:21

Hey, old SF medic, usually stay out of these, my memory is not that good anymore. :D

Sdiver 06-15-2013 12:33

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Originally Posted by longrange1947 (Post 511445)
Hey, old SF medic, usually stay out of these, my memory is not that god anymore. :D

A little Freudian slip there LR ??? ;) :p

Trapper John 06-15-2013 13:15

The T-waves in this patient are highly irregular. May be fused P waves or U waves or both. Definitely not hyperkalemia. May be hypokalemia. Has the patient been having diarrhea? On diuretics?

May also be fused P wave and now were back to BrushOkie's heart block (probably Stage 1).

What are the chances of both hypokalemic and stage 1 heart block?

Will IV KCL (bolus, 1100 mg) be differentiating? If so I would monitor the T waves to see if a normal T wave appears. If not then we may be dealing with heart block and IV lidocaine (50 mg IV bolus) would be indicated.

I am still leaning more towards AF with hypokalemia.

Trapper John 06-15-2013 18:28

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 511478)
How about a digitalis OD

Did you see Foxglove in her garden? :D

Sdiver 06-19-2013 14:33

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Originally Posted by Trapper John (Post 511406)
SDiver- Are you going to post the answer to this one? Will there be prizes like the last time?

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Originally Posted by Sdiver (Post 511441)
It's funny you should mention this Trap. It's still being discussed over on my other board. .....

I'll let ya know what's determined once it's posted.

Well, they posted a Dx today .....

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Revisiting this strip from last week... The majority of responses called for either cardioversion or rate control for our sick patient... However, she was in septic shock, and needed several liters of fluid before the rate returned to a normal range. Determining treatment for patients in AFib w/RVR is not easy!
She must've had an underlying condition of HTN, because her MAP (Mean Arterial Pressure) wasn't below 65 .... (although, <65 is what we use to call a Sepsis alert.) .... so her lactate must have been out of wack.

MAP formula ..... Systolic X's 2 plus diastolic divided by 3

86(2) + 60 / 3 .... 172+60 / 3 = 77.3 MAP

Trap .... Your prize, along with everyone else's is ...... Greater Knowledge and Understanding. (looks like you're stuck with that nipple ring) :D

Trapper John 06-19-2013 14:48

Thanks for this one. Very interesting. And, yes I did learn a few things on this one too.

One question: If she was in septic shock wouldn't she have presented with fever?

Brush Okie, I know you really wanted my nipple ring. Maybe next go around? :D

MR2 06-19-2013 17:26

I do believe it was the nipple ring that caused the underlying sepsis.

Doom on you whosoever reuses a nipple ring.

Trapper John 06-19-2013 17:39

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 512134)
I do believe it was the nipple ring that caused the underlying sepsis.

Doom on you whosoever reuses a nipple ring.

Ooops :eek:


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