Yeah, I noticed that too. I think it was only the first half though. They were back into ACUs for the last part. (With the exception of the AF CCT)

If you search the web for some videos of the Army Marksmanship Team, you'll find them wearing khaki Crye combat pants.

Because the Marine Corps Chain of Command has the mentality that all our shit has to have the EGA (Eagle, Globe & Anchor) on it because we are the "Marines". Someone above my pay grade up high thinks we have to have different uniforms because we have to be able to stick out from the other services, but never thought about the issue of supply. Trust me though the diggies blow compared to the old woodlands & tricolors... But who am I? I am just a little guy on the totem pole... I am going to crawl back in my hole now..

The only place I've found the ACUs blend really well is the parking lots around Bagram. For goodness sakes, don't lay down anywere on Camp Vance. You'll get stepped on or run over for sure!!! I've been changing most of my kit over to MC over the past year. I work at Mackall and it blends in great out there.

The only place I've seen it work well is on a rock face - and there it's pretty good. I mean, we all know how often we're scaling rock faces enroute to the ORP... Why give up that camo for something that works in the woods or the desert? I mean, really, how often are we there??? :rolleyes:

and the best argument i've heard...
 

a pogue friend of mine(unit withheld for the sake of embarrassment) said he loves them because you don't have to starch/iron them.....

Supposed reason for ACU issue...
 

I have a good friend from my old unit who landed a pogue job at AMC (Army Materials Command) somehow as a "Infantry expert" testing new night vision equipment for the Army. Ineveitably, hes involved in a lot of stuff the army is putting out there. So I asked him about ACU's and why the hell the Army thought they were such a great idea. He told me that the Army is looking at the soldier as more of a piece of equipment than a person nowadays. I agree. Anyway, a soldier wearing ACU's at night is difficult to see with NOD's. Since we "own the night" and the enemy has night vision capabilities, the ACU was supposed to apparently help us keep our advantage over the enemy. 1st hand experience, i dont think they make that much of a difference at all. I wanna wear MC's.

Agree with the AF pattern not being any better than the ACU, but as bad as the ACU is I'd still take it over the ABU with it's completely ridiculous extra crap. I mean come on a map pocket made up of 3 layers of fabric that covers your entire chest (which is completely useless with body armor on) and yes that's 4 layers of winter weight starch free, wrinkle proof :rolleyes: fabric over your heart in a uniform that we're deploying with to the desert :confused: good call uniform board! The same exact useless pockets (again when wearing armor) as were in the BDU/DCU, WOW how revolutionary! :mad:. A freaking wrench pocket WTF, A PDA pocket just what my guys need, and no less than 6 pen pockets, yea Airmen Battle Uniform my A$$! The company who designed it calls it the Airmen Barracks Uniform. :rolleyes: But it does achieve two things... it shows how out of touch the AF leadership was/is with their real battlefield airmen and what they need, and it keeps us from having to starch our uniforms. Give me a set of BDU/DCU's anyday.

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I found out during my Iraq deployment ACUs are excellent in low light situations and it is hard to pick them out through NODs. There are only a few advantages out of many disadvantages. Big Army thinking:confused:

yep, big army. we definately need a new camo pattern. MC is the way to go

Rangers and MC
 

I have it on semi-good authority that 3/75th is wearing MC on their current deployment. They're supposed to pick them up in a famous beer-loving country en route to their final destination. Maybe some photos will pop up once they get in country.

The most recent rumors I have been hearing is that the Army will be changing over to the Multi Cam uniform "soon" (meaning 5 - 10 years).

Hey, Beav, you might want to reread the registration message you were sent, or at least read the stickies and rules and comply before posting further.

TR

Typically lurk the site, but I've got some knowledge/experience with MC...

and not to further rumors, but the same the Beav brought up was also related to me by the Army 4 shop guys here this past week actually...so somewhere it's gotten out to the Army rumor channels.

I've seen a few joes come through the FOB rocking MC, but primarily been PMCs, but there have been some unknowns on/off I've seen also.

Monsoon65,
I've worn the MC out on a SERE exercise stateside, and the Pjs were outfitted in same, but I've only seem them wearing ACU here in the sandbox. I have to agree about the ABU, and as Defender said, I hate the ABUs...such a horrible mistake. Personally, I hope there is vailidity in the MC rumors and those of us who work ILO will also follow suit, as we should have done with the ACU and not spent millions on the POS ABU.

Defender,
You should know by now the big AF doesn't take care of "us". We're treated much better by the Army (usually).

Not sure if MC was part of the down select but I do have info on how the ACU pattern was selected. Some well meaning officer decided to creat a "universal" cammo pattern. He did this by combining colors from the three most common combat AO's.

Urban = grey
Desert = tan
Woodland = green

What he did not understand was the hue affect. Up close the pattern would be distinguishable. As you move away from the pattern the colors combine to form a common hue (color). In the case of the ACU it is in the blue range. This is the primary reason why the ACU does not blend in with anything. Normally when a pattern is chossen for consideration it goes through a lengthy testing process by the alphabet soup of labs. In the case of the ACU, this testing process was shortened because of the percieved need to get the new uniform out on the street. So instead of choosing a pattern based on scientific testing, it was chosen because it was the "coolest looking". The scientific community that is responsible for the testing process attempted to protest but was squashed, again by well meaning officers.

The fact that the pattern performs well under NODs is more due to the fabric used and not the camoflauge. But the same stuff that makes the uniform NOD invisible and wrinkle free also makes it highly flamable. So you have that to also add to the list of negatives.