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UWOA (RIP) 03-10-2016 09:23

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Originally Posted by Sentone (Post 605295)
Again, UWOA, I am sorry if I was out of line with my statement. However, this is not my opinion but medical fact and the consensus of multiple strength and conditioning professionals who have trained more QP's than I ever will. I have been doing as I have been instructed by other QP's on this site and reading the forums (learning much as I go) and when I saw this one post I offered what I know to be helpful and medically reliable advice.

See Razor's comment. You've been told by myself and other QPs to read and absorb, not to talk. As illustrated by Razor, what you've alluded to cannot be taken as medical fact. That's why QPs, in their areas of expertise offer the guidance that they do, often with caveats because guidance changes with new advances in science. Reread the guidance you were given; nowhere does it state that we wish you to offer your opinion disguised as fact to prospective SF candidates.

There are threads where you can opine, the general discussions forum is one, because there your opinion is given the weight it deserves ....

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drop4417 03-23-2016 10:52

What I've been doing to prepare for SFAS
 
I've been rucking (of course) started with 65lbs and the last one I did was 10 miles with 90lbs (which I don't recommend, because I ended up straining a tendon in my left foot) in 2:35; I've also been doing pull ups, push ups, and sit-ups along with running. I've been taking time to also do things like yoga and mediating to help ease my mind. I've been wearing my ruck around the house most of the day, to get used to having it on all the time. I've also been reading a lot of threads on here to get some really helpful tips to prepare and also recently started reading The Looming tower which is a great book so far. There is also a SERE class on JKO which I think is a great online class to take.

Saigon 03-24-2016 10:39

I'm currently following the training plan in "Get Selected", rucking, running, and doing light cardio excersises on the off days, with Sunday as a rest day.

I generally use Sunday as a day to be mentally productive by brushing up on land navigation, reading the forums, and Get Selected.

Dougy57 04-02-2016 23:12

Following the plan outlined in Get Selected! The rucks are starting to get longer, the cardio longer, and the lifting days more intense but I'm fired up to get in shape for this. The big thing I've taken away from the rucks is that everyone is hurting at some point through the rucks, only the ones that can overcome that pain succeed. My Future Soldier leader is planning a 7-8 mile cross country ruck and I am looking forward to it.

Last hard class 04-02-2016 23:31

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Originally Posted by Dougy57 (Post 606335)
Following the plan outlined in Get Selected! The rucks are starting to get longer, the cardio longer, and the lifting days more intense but I'm fired up to get in shape for this. The big thing I've taken away from the rucks is that everyone is hurting at some point through the rucks, only the ones that can overcome that pain succeed. My Future Soldier leader is planning a 7-8 mile cross country ruck and I am looking forward to it.

I know this will date me, but what is a future soldier leader?

Thanks,

LHC

Dougy57 04-02-2016 23:45

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Originally Posted by Last hard class (Post 606336)
I know this will date me, but what is a future soldier leader?

Thanks,

LHC

I'm not sure if it's like this everywhere, but at my recruiting station all the people in Delayed-Entry that are waiting to ship to Basic are called Future Soldiers. We have a group leader that schedules PT and other events.

The Reaper 04-03-2016 14:45

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Originally Posted by Dougy57 (Post 606337)
I'm not sure if it's like this everywhere, but at my recruiting station all the people in Delayed-Entry that are waiting to ship to Basic are called Future Soldiers. We have a group leader that schedules PT and other events.

Ahh.

Der Gruppenfuhrer.

TR

Dougy57 04-07-2016 22:06

Just an update: Still following the program. Did a PT test and 6 mile ruck tonight.
55 push-ups
55 sit-ups
No run due to rucking
6 mile ruck in 1:29:26.

My strength is getting there, around 50 days till ship date. Back to PT I go.

CAARNG 68W 04-08-2016 00:57

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 606358)

Der Gruppenfuhrer.

lol

stevekoz 04-12-2016 08:55

What I've been doing
 
Monday-Thursday time is limited working 10-12 hours in a state prison. I try to get in some crossfit and vary between short intense/ longer paced. I will also do some sort of interval/ fartlek runs with 2 sets of max effort pushups/ situps alternating before the run.
Friday is an off day from work which allows me to do some swimming, strength work to include front squat, back squat, deadlift, strict press, sled pushes/ drags, etc. and then some sort of core and lower back strength.
Saturdays I either run or do some sort of Olympic lifting or will be a mock APFT.
Sundays are reserved for rucking. varying distances and speeds. load to never exceed 35-40# dry. The rucking is to get my body used to the stress and get used to the pacing, but not meant to ruck crazy weights or go for a crazy amount of distance. (recommended weight was 30-35#, no further than 8 miles, no faster than 12:30, and no slower than 14:00)
I do a lot of mobility and body maintenance work. range of motion and joint stability. mobile hips and ankles/ stable knees and feet. ROMWOD programs yoga like workouts that are easy to follow and mobility kits from barbell shrugged have all the mobility dodads like voodoo floss for recovery.
I'm currently 27. I was a 4 year college athlete; strength and conditioning is something that I have been exposed to for a long time. I'm not an expert but I know what works for me. Some days I push to a dark place where I want to quit, but keep going. other days I work on breathing or mental toughness. Other days are fun strength/ meathead days.
reading and power yoga help a lot too. Man's Search for Meaning is a really powerful book.
I don't normally post stuff on here as I would rather just read and soak up information. that said... there are many ways to the top of the mountain, hopefully this helps if you need more ideas.
Get Selected has a great program, SORB has a .pdf for the THOR program, and SOFLETE has a really good Selection Prep plan.
A Majority of the guys I've talked to say RUCK, RUN, GRIP, FOOTCARE are major concerns for selection. And max out the APFT. It was stressed to me that Developing strength is important in the time leading up to the pipeline if you are considering an 18x contract.

JacobJames 10-04-2016 22:01

A quick question for those who have bought an alice pack. I have been using a Jansport backpack that is filled with rocks that I have weighed at 55lbs. Would buying an alice pack help alleviate some discomfort? I typically do about 16 or 17 miles at a state park in three hours and by the end the straps are really digging into my skin and chaffing my back.

Stroked 10-07-2016 19:10

ALICE
 
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Originally Posted by JacobJames (Post 617377)
A quick question for those who have bought an alice pack. I have been using a Jansport backpack that is filled with rocks that I have weighed at 55lbs. Would buying an alice pack help alleviate some discomfort? I typically do about 16 or 17 miles at a state park in three hours and by the end the straps are really digging into my skin and chaffing my back.


I have been using a large w/frame ALICE pack. The best thing I have done is make a 35 lb sandbag and completely wrap it in duct tape, it should look like a little cube when you are done. Shove that into the radio pouch in the pack, that way the weight is high and against your back. I have used an old comforter to fill out the bag also. Make multiple sand pills. Some heavier and some lighter. I have a 25lb pill, 35lb, and 50lb. I'm 6' 2" so the frame digs in a little bit at the top of my ass-cheeks/lower back. I have wrapped the spots of the frame that dig and rub with junk towels.
It will take you a few trips out to get it sorted for your body but it will be better than a regular pack.

TXGringo 10-08-2016 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacobJames (Post 617377)
A quick question for those who have bought an alice pack. I have been using a Jansport backpack that is filled with rocks that I have weighed at 55lbs. Would buying an alice pack help alleviate some discomfort? I typically do about 16 or 17 miles at a state park in three hours and by the end the straps are really digging into my skin and chaffing my back.

My limited experience has been that nothing is really that comfortable after 6-8 miles. That being said, I've been using the same Alice pack (issued) for almost 3 years now. Never had to make any modifications, and never had any issues.

UofA4161 10-23-2016 10:17

Physical Prep Goals
 
One thing that I always wanted to know before I shipped (and never really could find) is what my goals should be for various physical fitness benchmarks to be at the top of my 18X class.

Now that I'm 7 months into the 18X program....Based on our class of 94 18Xs, here are the physical fitness stats will put you in the top 10% of your class. To be totally clear, I AM NOT sharing the gate events from SFAS. These are just examples of PT events that we did as a class on our own time to train up.

First, you need a perfect score (300) on the APFT. "Don't leave home without it," as they say.:
2-mile run- 11:15 on a track or even road
Pushups- 85
Situps- 85

Rucks (55lb ruck weight, boots & ACU/OCP, 5-7lb FLC with 2qts water, 7-10lb weapon). This DOES mean ruck running, so you really need to train up for this or you will hurt yourself:
4 miles- 46:12
6 miles- 1:08
12 miles- 2:34

Runs:
2 mile on track- 11:15
5 mile on uneven trail- 32:12

Pull ups (strict, none of that kipping stuff, pause at the bottom and top for a full second):
14

Hope this is helpful. One really important thing to know...OSUT and Airborne School are both TERRIBLE programs from a fitness/nutritional perspective. You won't "get ready for SFAS" there. You will lose strength as you approach SOPC/SFAS. You will not have enough time on your own to fight that. So, you should aim to beat these goals by roughly 25% before you ship so that by the time you get to JFKSWCS, you are still able to meet them.

Good luck, and remember that the physical stuff is only part of what you need to be working on. Be humble. Be kind. Only small minds think that the "perfect soldier" should act like a crude sarcastic blood thirsty asshole. Give more to your team than you take. Always carry the heaviest object the furthest distance, not to make a show of your fitness, but instead do it out of a desire to serve to your teammates. The 18X program is just a chance to go to "the interview" (SFAS + The Q). Always act like you're showing up for a job interview...because, well... you are, and the physical fitness stuff is just one section of your resume.

IamLanky 01-17-2017 11:53

I am currently following the 14 week THOR3 SFAS program that is on the SORB website. So far it is an absolute asskicker and I love it. I could barely finish each day's session at the beginning of the program but now feel pretty good about my progression.

If anyone else chooses to follow this program, please be sure to track your nutrition and your macros! I made the mistake of not doing this the first week and found that I had zero energy, and got lightheaded at the end of the lifting sessions. I think this was due to low intakes of carbs and low glucose levels. I was burning muscle for energy at that point, which is counterproductive to what we want.


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