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The Reaper 08-20-2004 20:07

AM:

What range do you think our guys are shooting at?

TR

zeroalpha 08-21-2004 05:10

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Hey RL whats the source of all the pics?

actually, anyone got any good sources of pics ex Iraq and A'stan?

Also, off topic, but who do i have to top to get rid of the 'asset' below my name? Its giving me bad dreams

zeroalpha

shadowflyer 08-21-2004 07:29

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Originally posted by zeroalpha
Hey RL whats the source of all the pics?

actually, anyone got any good sources of pics ex Iraq and A'stan?

Also, off topic, but who do i have to top to get rid of the 'asset' below my name? Its giving me bad dreams

zeroalpha

Normally ZA , you will have to have over 100 posts to be able to change your name. If you are a QP or vetted BTDT then PM one of the admins to have them change it for you. I know I had to get to 100 posts to be able to change mine and to have an avatar.

JJ

longrange1947 08-21-2004 10:43

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Originally posted by Air.177
An M14?? WTF?? Could be captured I guess, unless the Oregon ARNG is that far down the chain for new toys.

Cool Pics AL, Thanks for posting them.

Actually several units, to include the 82nd, SF and others, use the M14 as a designated marksman weapon system.

That one weapon is not the M-107, but angle won't let me decide on which it is for sure. Some of those shots are definately not Cav folk.

Air.177 08-21-2004 10:52

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Originally posted by longrange1947
Actually several units, to include the 82nd, SF and others, use the M14 as a designated marksman weapon system.

That one weapon is not the M-107, but angle won't let me decide on which it is for sure. Some of those shots are definately not Cav folk.

Right, But I didn't see optics on that one.


(On the Other weapon) The stock and the Muzzle brake lead me to believe that it's a McMillan, But I have been wrong before (Once or Twice)

brownapple 08-21-2004 11:29

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Originally posted by Air.177
An M14?? WTF?? Could be captured I guess, unless the Oregon ARNG is that far down the chain for new toys.

Cool Pics AL, Thanks for posting them.

Very possibly M21s. We had them in the 101st in the 80s. Great weapons.

Tuukka 08-21-2004 12:26

There are units deployed that have M14 rifles issued to them in various degrees of customizing. Have seen built up rifles with McMillan stocks for example. Looks like most of them are used in the designated marksman role.

Air.177 08-21-2004 12:58

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Originally posted by Tuukka
There are units deployed that have M14 rifles issued to them in various degrees of customizing. Have seen built up rifles with McMillan stocks for example. Looks like most of them are used in the designated marksman role.
Right, But I was referring to the Large caliber bolt action rifle in the background of the pic with the dummy head in the window.

Tuukka 08-21-2004 13:23

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Originally posted by Air.177
Right, But I was referring to the Large caliber bolt action rifle in the background of the pic with the dummy head in the window.
When i was referring to the general talk of the M14... ;)

Air.177 08-21-2004 13:37

Well then, Now we understand each other.

Airbornelawyer 08-24-2004 11:44

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Another one of photographer Jim MacMillan's pics:

Tuukka 08-24-2004 11:57

Nice Mod 1

Air.177 08-24-2004 12:24

What optic is that? Looks like a Leupold MR/T.

Tuukka 08-24-2004 13:48

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Originally posted by Air.177
What optic is that? Looks like a Leupold MR/T
Mk 4 3-9x36 MR/T M3

Air.177 08-24-2004 14:00

And one more thing, What rifle is that? Looks like it has a Full length Barrel and a Carbine Collapsible stock

Tuukka 08-24-2004 14:18

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Originally posted by Air.177
And one more thing, What rifle is that? Looks like it has a Full length Barrel and a Carbine Collapsible stock

Im sure the BTDTs will correct this, but i believe it is the Mk 12 Mod 1 SPR.

The Reaper 08-24-2004 17:14

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Originally posted by Air.177
And one more thing, What rifle is that? Looks like it has a Full length Barrel and a Carbine Collapsible stock
It is an SPR, the version with the KAC FF RAS and KAC 600m. BUIS.

Almost certainly a SOF trooper.

TR

Airbornelawyer 08-24-2004 19:13

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Originally posted by The Reaper
Almost certainly a SOF trooper.
You don't need the rifle for that. Note the relaxed grooming standards. ;)

Smokin Joe 08-24-2004 19:41

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Originally posted by Airbornelawyer
Another one of photographer Jim MacMillan's pics:

Man, I really need Wes to build me one of those.

Prutty Rifle!

The Reaper 08-24-2004 20:37

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Originally posted by Smokin Joe
Man, I really need Wes to build me one of those.

Prutty Rifle!

He does good work, doesn't he?

And visits this site occasionally.

Like to see more of him here.

TR

Bill Harsey 08-24-2004 21:38

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Originally posted by Air.177
An M14?? WTF?? Could be captured I guess, unless the Oregon ARNG is that far down the chain for new toys.


Ok, We aren't that far behind the times here in Oregon. We just changed up to the Sharps model 1859 Infantry rifle (Used by Berdan's Sharpshooters back when Reaper was little) because good flint is getting hard to come by. Still have to be careful with the paper cartridge in the rainy season around here.

Sdiver 08-25-2004 13:36

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Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Ok, We aren't that far behind the times here in Oregon. We just changed up to the Sharps model 1859 Infantry rifle (Used by Berdan's Sharpshooters back when Reaper was little) because good flint is getting hard to come by. Still have to be careful with the paper cartridge in the rainy season around here.
What do ya think of these lectrick lights...pretty cool hugh?;)

Airbornelawyer 08-25-2004 13:48

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Originally posted by longrange1947
Actually several units, to include the 82nd, SF and others, use the M14 as a designated marksman weapon system.

That one weapon is not the M-107, but angle won't let me decide on which it is for sure. Some of those shots are definately not Cav folk.

Another M-14:

Airbornelawyer 08-25-2004 13:50

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In Najaf. That's some powerful ammo they're using... :p

Air.177 08-25-2004 13:51

That one's different. I realize that they still play a role as Precision weapons, I just thought that they had pretty well gone away in their standard comfiguration like in the last pic.

Bravo1-3 08-25-2004 14:07

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Originally posted by Airbornelawyer
In Najaf. That's some powerful ammo they're using... :p
Must be some of that Hollywood Movie Ammo! In .22 it blows up cars just by shooting it at the gas tank, I didn't realize that in 7.62 you could take the roof off of a building with it though! :D

longrange1947 08-25-2004 18:55

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Originally posted by Airbornelawyer
Another M-14:
Hmmmm, I would suggest he would get a better stock weld if he layed his cheek across the stock and sighted with his left eye. His head held that high will cause the weapon to build up speed before it whacks him in the mouth. :D

Hugh 08-25-2004 19:42

What's Really wrong with the last picture?

The Guy with the M-14 has on WHITE socks! :D


It frightens me that I noticed that. I'm sure to be on the next E-8 List now.....


Hugh

Bill Harsey 08-25-2004 19:49

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Originally posted by Hugh
What's Really wrong with the last picture?

The Guy with the M-14 has on WHITE socks! :D





Hugh

Those aren't socks, it's the shin guards showing. FrontSight might be in the neighborhood.

Bill Harsey 08-25-2004 19:50

AL, Great pics, Thanks!

Airbornelawyer 08-26-2004 16:38

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Having gone off on a tangent, the trip continues. Kickin' it old school:

Footmobile 08-26-2004 16:45

Damn, would have been a bitch to hump those suppressed M-14's through the jungle.

Would have been worth it to send some bad guy to his maker in the middle of the night with nothing more than a "phfffft".....

longrange1947 08-26-2004 17:14

M21s and PVS2s
 
Now that brings back memories of wepaons that did not hold a zero and were about a ton to carry. The suppressors were not that good though.

Anyone remember the moa adjustments on that beast the PVS-2?

Lets just say coarse is an understatement and it was made in the mount ugh!

Tuukka 08-27-2004 08:25

Sionics M14SS-1 suppressor.

Airbornelawyer 08-27-2004 08:47

What are the external differences between an M-21 and an M-14? Not my field, but I thought a match grade barrel was the main difference.

longrange1947 08-27-2004 14:43

Differences M21 to M14
 
Lets see starting at the break. The break is bored out to a larger diameter ( cannot remember the diameter right now). The Gas plug had a small hole drilled in it (again the size escapes me, dam oldtimers crap :) ), or later the gas plug had a slot cut in it, these items were to prevent pressure problems on the plugs return thus changing barrel vibration. The selector for rifle grenade was welded and the barrel band was rivetted and welded to the gas plug housing. The forestock band was polished and greased to allow consistent vibration. The figure eight on the barrel that held the operating rod in place was larger and beefier. The bolt had a roller instead of a chunk of polished steal and the bolt was a NM bolt. The selector and disconnect was welded. The rear sight had .5 moa windage adjustments and the elevation had 1 moa adjustments but was .5 moa capable by means of an off center hood that had a notch cut in it. The notch indicated the direction of the .5 moa change. So if you wanted to come up .5 moa and the notch was down then you turned the notch up. If you wanted to go up .5 moa and the notch was up then you clicked up 1 moa and turned the notch down. The barrel, of course was NM. The scopes attached to the side grenade launcher sight screw hole. The ART I was the scope in those days and later the ART II came out, then the ART IV and ART MPC. The stocks were made of premium walnut to keep movment down as the oils in the walnut was supposed to keep moisture from penetrating as much. They later went to a lighter wood that I thought was Beechnut. But not sure on that one (old tiomers again) I know that I have left something out and someine will eat my lunch over it. :munchin

Airbornelawyer 08-27-2004 14:57

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Thanks!

And for your troubles, another image:

Smokin Joe 08-27-2004 15:39

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Originally posted by Airbornelawyer
Thanks!

And for your troubles, another image:

BATT Boys AL?

Seeing how they are all wearing RACK's.

brewmonkey 08-27-2004 16:08

I thought I read somewhere recently that they have been issuing M-14's to "designated" marksmen in units.

The Reaper 08-27-2004 18:15

Hey, LR 1947!

ALL M-14s that I have ever seen (not just NM) had rollers on the bolts.

The lugs were on the M-1s. Are you dropping back confusing the US M-1903 and M-1917 Rifles next?

Those have to be Rangers, or Marines in that pic. Their uniforms and gear are too uniform to be SF.

TR


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