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The Reaper 07-22-2004 18:26

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I hate to say it, but all triggers suck now, due to lawsuits.

I have an extensive list of mods I do to my pistols to make them more comfortable and efficient, but they are not required to make the pistols run.

I always burn a few hundred rounds through them for function testing before I have them tuned anyway.

I must say that I have all SA Paras, I only recently tried an LDA. If I were starting over again, I could probably get used to it.

It takes a minimum of 10,000 repetitions to build muscle memory, and 50,000 to unlearn/learn a new one.

I have been packing 1911s for over 30 years. When I hear a sound in the night, or I feel like I need to have a weapon in my hand, I don't have to remember whether I am single action, double action, safe action, whether I have a safety, a decocker, a hammer drop lever under my thumb, whether the trigger will be a long smooth double action pull, a gritty nasty double for the first, and single for the remainder of the rounds, where the mag release is, whether the sights will be plain, Patridge, bar, dot, three dot, etc.

All of my 1911 pistols, from concealed to match, use the same controls, safety, trigger, sights, mag release, slide release, and the same IAD for a stoppage or failure.

In short, like my M-4 carbines and M-1 Benelli shotguns, they work for me and I have to change nothing.

Pick what works for you, and stick with it. Don't be a member of the "Gun of the Week Club".

TR

Roguish Lawyer 07-22-2004 18:29

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Originally posted by The Reaper
Because I like it, mine work fine, and I hit what I am aiming at with it.

I ask you, why not?

TR

I have never fired a Kimber or a ParaOrdnance, so I don't know. Do they have a decocker? Can you switch the slide release to either side of the weapon? Is there an ambidextrous magazine release? What is the frame made from?

24601 07-22-2004 18:39

That is a VERY nice collection. I just (5 minutes ago) got my HK back in my hands after being gone for a few months. I know I'll never get rid of it, it was a wedding present. I think I'll just do some mods to it for now, and file away your advice for the future. I know I'll be getting more pistols, and am looking at all different types.

Thank you very much. You've helped me a lot. :)

The Reaper 07-22-2004 18:54

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I have never fired a Kimber or a ParaOrdnance, so I don't know.
Do they have a decocker?

Why would you need that when you have a safety, and a trigger? The 1911 is designed to be carried tactically in Condition One, cocked and locked. I lower the hammer by pulling the trigger. I safe the weapon by engaging the thumb safety. Simplicity itself.


Can you switch the slide release to either side of the weapon?

Don't know, never needed one on the other side. They have made left handed mirror image copies, some so detailed that the rifling twist was reversed.


Is there an ambidextrous magazine release?

Yes, but most 1911 southpaws just use their index finger instead.


What is the frame made from?

Well, let's see, there is carbon steel, stainless steel, aluminum, carbon fiber, plastic, what else would you need to make one from? Wood? Rubber? Gold?

I already said to go with what works for you. If searching for a piece, don't badmouth a weapon that you have not tried. I have shot the H&K, but don't need another pistol to master, at this time. Mine work fine.

TR

Roguish Lawyer 07-22-2004 19:03

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Originally posted by The Reaper
I already said to go with what works for you. If searching for a piece, don't badmouth a weapon that you have not tried. I have shot the H&K, but don't need another pistol to master, at this time. Mine work fine.

Hey now, I was typing my message when you posted yours with the photo. I'm not bad-mouthing anything. I asked about your preferences so I could learn from you, that's all. Perhaps I should not have attempted to answer the question you put to me.

I'm going to the kitchen forum where I belong. LOL

The Reaper 07-22-2004 19:06

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Hey now, I was typing my message when you posted yours with the photo. I'm not bad-mouthing anything. I asked about your preferences so I could learn from you, that's all. Perhaps I should not have attempted to answer the question you put to me.

I'm going to the kitchen forum where I belong. LOL

Yeah, yeah, now go get some sleep and clear your head, before you step in any further and I charge you for all of my "lawyer trigger" repair bills.

TR

24601 07-22-2004 19:21

Sorry if this is stupid, but can 1911's be modified to have rails for a taclight? I'll be quiet after this, you have the most experience with them that I know. I thought I'd seen one with rails, but I can't remember. Thank you for putting up with my 21 questions. :)

Sacamuelas 07-22-2004 19:23

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24601... YES.

TR-
I am impressed. Can you gold plate that thing? ;) :p

The Reaper 07-22-2004 20:24

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Originally posted by 24601
Sorry if this is stupid, but can 1911's be modified to have rails for a taclight? I'll be quiet after this, you have the most experience with them that I know. I thought I'd seen one with rails, but I can't remember. Thank you for putting up with my 21 questions. :)
Funny you ask.

I have a Para at the shop right now having the Caspian Recon Rail put on it to mount my Surefire X200A tac light.

Some of the Springfields, a few of the custom Kimbers, Caspian, the SIG GSR, and I think STI make 1911s with light rails. I am sure that I left some off.

TR

The Reaper 07-22-2004 20:27

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Originally posted by Sacamuelas
24601... YES.

TR-
I am impressed. Can you gold plate that thing? ;) :p

No.

The 10mm upper on it is NP3ed, which is probably more expensive than gold plating. If you had one like it, you could probably put some Pearl grips on it for when you go into town, though, Pimp Daddy Saca.

Hey, do you do gold teeth or diamond inlays?

I think someone here likes the look.

TR

Guy 07-22-2004 20:38

Damn sure aint me...Sir!
 
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Originally posted by The Reaper
Hey, do you do gold teeth or diamond inlays?

I think someone here likes the look.

TR

I've seen people with that stuff in thier mouth and didn't have a "Pot to piss in or a window to throw it out"! :confused:

Smokin Joe 07-22-2004 22:56

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Hey now, I was typing my message when you posted yours with the photo. I'm not bad-mouthing anything. I asked about your preferences so I could learn from you, that's all. Perhaps I should not have attempted to answer the question you put to me.

I'm going to the kitchen forum where I belong. LOL


Wow, sounds like someone needs a nap.

Smokin Joe 07-22-2004 23:04

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Originally posted by Sacamuelas
24601... YES.

TR-
I am impressed. Can you gold plate that thing? ;) :p

Saca's new home page.

http://www.mrbling.com/

NousDefionsDoc 07-23-2004 07:01

I hear Dawson makes a good add on rail as well.

The Reaper 07-23-2004 07:36

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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I hear Dawson makes a good add on rail as well.
They do, but theirs seems to hang down further, and is $119 vs. $35 for the Caspian.

TR

Team Sergeant 07-23-2004 08:10

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Originally posted by The Reaper
I have had excellent luck with Kimbers and ParaOrdnance, some success with Springfields, and little success with Colt's running right out of the box.


I rest my case.

Out of the box side by side for 10,000 rounds I'd place my money on the HK. Every 1911 I've ever owned has had to go to the SHOP!

German made, but the best in the world IMO.

BTW, isn't the M2HB about to be replaced?

TS

The Reaper 07-23-2004 08:35

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Originally posted by Team Sergeant
I rest my case.

Out of the box side by side for 10,000 rounds I'd place my money on the HK. Every 1911 I've ever owned has had to go to the SHOP!

German made, but the best in the world IMO.

BTW, isn't the M2HB about to be replaced?

TS

TS:

Mine didn't HAVE to go to the shop, they ran fine, but I wanted ambi safeties, night sights, a trigger job, checkering on the front strap, etc. I could have avoided that by buying a custom to start with, with all of the bells and whistles, but I could not afford it all in one check. I spread it out over several periods, and shot it in the the interim.

I suspect that for the price of an H&K Tactical, with a half dozen mags, I could have bought a 1911 tricked out from the start.

Note that I am not slamming the H&K, just saying that I am happy with my choice, as you are with yours. The 1911 remains a valid consideration for a defensive pistol, despite its age, and its detractors. Just because your 1911s left you dissatisfied does not mean that they are all defective or unsuitable for use in that role.

I suspect that John Moses Browning would have improved the 1911 and made a few more changes to his masterpiece had he lived another 70 years. I doubt that the end result would have been the H&K design.

I have seen nothing on the M-2 HB being replaced, other than a partial swap for Mk 19s to ensure a mix of both systems. Reports from the Box indicate that the M-2 is one of the most reliable weapons in theater, and most feared by the bad guys.

Just my .02, as stated, YMMV.

TR

Sacamuelas 07-23-2004 09:39

For those who are considering painting their own personally owned bullet launcher... there are more specialized products out there that 'should be' much more resistant to the gun solvents,etc that we use to clean them.

Note, I have never painted a firearm myself. I do not know -personally-if these products are more resistant first hand than simple krylon paint. My personal guess... Hell yes.

Maybe Mr. Harsey could help as he deals with metallic finishes all the time.

just an example.. CLICK ME FOR GUN FINISH PRODUCT

Smokin Joe 07-23-2004 10:52

Good point Saca.

The main reason why I used Kyrlon is incase my administration saw it and had a shit fit. I could easily remove it.

NousDefionsDoc 08-12-2004 20:51

HK just came out with some new colors for their pistols. OD and some other color I didn't recognize the name of.

NousDefionsDoc 08-12-2004 20:53

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Here ya go

24601 08-12-2004 22:38

I think the word you're looking for is "tan". :D

NousDefionsDoc 08-13-2004 08:02

Paper says "taupe"

Air.177 08-13-2004 09:41

Call Me old Fashioned, But I REFUSE to own/carry a "Taupe" pistol. "Taupe" just sounds a little too much like something that came off of a new Learning channel series:"Trading Pistols" LOL

Why couldn't they call it Coyote Like everyone else?

24601 08-13-2004 10:03

Same color. Taupe is just a fancy word for tan so designers can charge more, and sound more sophisticated. Kinda like "buttercream" and light yellow.:rolleyes:

Guy 08-13-2004 10:13

I thought a "taupe" was something you wore when going balled?

They have names for "colors" out here I have never heard of and the same for food.

NousDefionsDoc 08-13-2004 10:15

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Originally posted by Guy
I thought a "taupe" was something you wore when going balled?

They have names for "colors" out here I have never heard of and the same for food.

ROTFLMAO!

mumbleypeg 08-13-2004 11:22

I can't wait for guncote to be made in "buttercream" , "taupe" and perhaps "sunflower".

Guy 08-13-2004 11:38

Laugh all you want to...

When someone asks "what color black" do you want?

I get confused!:confused:

bberkley 08-13-2004 12:04

This is my new "competition only" handgun:

http://www.arpc-ipsc.org/~bberkley/hawleycustom.jpg

STI Long/Wide dustcover cut for Nowlin ramp
STI Unique slide tri-topped
EGW magwell
Nowlin .40 S&W Ramped bull barrel
SVI Infinity Long/Flat TriGlide trigger
S&A hammer, sear, disconnector
Kings Beavertail (checkering on the pad matches the checkering on the STI grip)
Reverse plug stainless guide rod
BoMar BMCS rear sight
Brazos Custom Lightning rod fiber optic front sight
Ed Brown slide release
Ed Brown ambidextrous long/wide thumb safety
STI titanium mainspring cap/hammer strut
Limcat extended firing pin

Its still "in the white" and will get sent to Tripp Research for satin finish hard chrome when I am done breaking it in. The trigger is a crisp 2 lbs now, it is very flat shooting and accurate. Its the first "custom" firearm I've owned, as I mostly prefer my Glock 17 or 34.

Air.177 08-13-2004 12:07

Nice Pistol, I hear that Tripp does good work on finishing.

What holster do you use?

bberkley 08-13-2004 12:12

I've got a Safariland 012. I've used the CR Speed and Ghost (pinned) holsters for the Glocks. My production rig is a mix of Sidearmor mag pouches and a Blade-Tech dropped/offset kydex holster. I use the CR Speed Versa pouches because I can use the STI mags, Glock mags, and single-stack mags in them.

Air.177 08-13-2004 12:19

Cool deal, a friend of mine has a Brazos Custom Ghost holster that is sweet.

Alex F 08-13-2004 15:00

I guess the tan Mk23 is just as bad as my black Mk23.

:(

DanUCSB 08-13-2004 17:18

I like this idea of "Trading Pistols". Hah! I think the first episode should involve TR and TS... I'm sure hilarity would ensue. ;)

I'm just wondering who would get the hot pink grips and who would get the .380 barrel kit. :D

Air.177 08-13-2004 17:23

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Originally posted by DanUCSB
I like this idea of "Trading Pistols". Hah! I think the first episode should involve TR and TS... I'm sure hilarity would ensue. ;)

I'm just wondering who would get the hot pink grips and who would get the .380 barrel kit. :D


LMAO

I wonder.....Would they cancel the series if the first two participants got in a gunfight?


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