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CommoGeek 02-13-2004 15:20

GR,

I read Six Days of War a few months ago. Good book, but it delves into the political side and causes of the war quite a bit. Oren's a pretty good writer.

Oh, your bro from 3/124 should be back in town. His BN lost 2 KIA in Iraq. The unit's home now.

Ghostrider 02-13-2004 15:29

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Originally posted by CommoGeek
GR,

I read Six Days of War a few months ago. Good book, but it delves into the political side and causes of the war quite a bit. Oren's a pretty good writer.

Oh, your bro from 3/124 should be back in town. His BN lost 2 KIA in Iraq. The unit's home now.

Thanks CG for the info on the book. I got an e-mail from my bud, last week. He's going to be in Vegas for the next couple weeks so I'll get to see him at our drill......he's just a "little" glad to be back.

Roguish Lawyer 02-13-2004 15:34

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Originally posted by Ghostrider
Six Days of War - Michael Oren (any input on this one DunbarFC?)
I posted this a while ago somewhere else:

Quote:

I just finished it. Very good book.

Oren is a dual Israeli-American citizen who was born here and emigrated to Israel. Went to Princeton, now affiliated with the Shalem Center, a conservative Israeli think tank. He admits in an interview appended to the end of the text that his challenge was writing an objective history in the face of his natural bias. I think he has done an excellent job of being objective, although there are a couple of places where I think his bias peeks out a little. Impressive bibliography including public archives, oral interviews and many books and articles in several languages.

I think that anyone interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and the Palestinian problem in particular, should read this book. His thesis is that the '67 war really changed the entire landscape of the conflict, forcing the Arabs to accept that Israel cannot be defeated militarily but rather must be dealt with -- Israel's '67 gains really forced the settlements with Egypt and Jordan even though the Yom Kippur war happened in between. The book also is a reminder that anti-American sentiment in the Arab world did not begin with Osama bin Laden.

The book very briefly touches on the USS Liberty incident; many of you will recall the threads on this board regarding that issue, which include links to longer articles by Oren on the subject.

Great book. I highly recommend it.

Ghostrider 02-13-2004 15:47

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I posted this a while ago somewhere else:
Thanks RL...uh, that advice isn't going to cost me a billable hour is it?;)

Roguish Lawyer 02-13-2004 16:06

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Originally posted by Ghostrider
Thanks RL...uh, that advice isn't going to cost me a billable hour is it?;)
Anybody have a spare LAW lying around?

Ghostrider 02-13-2004 18:29

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Anybody have a spare LAW lying around?
Too bad you didn't get to go to the SHOT show either...probably could have picked one up.......sounds like everyone is having fun.:(

NousDefionsDoc 02-13-2004 19:13

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The spent ones are no good.

Fear Me Tank Boy!

Roguish Lawyer 02-13-2004 19:23

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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
The spent ones are no good.

Fear Me Tank Boy!

Probably comes in handy on field trips, eh?

DunbarFC 02-13-2004 22:25

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
I posted this a while ago somewhere else:
I highly agree with RL's take on this book

The 67 war was indeed a seminal event in the shaping of the Middle East

Ghostrider 02-15-2004 19:37

Thank you
 
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Originally posted by Ghostrider

Currently:

The Hunt for Bin Laden - Robin Moore

Just finished this one and even though you are all "Quiet Professionals" let me personally say thanks. If we ever cross paths the beers on me.....seriously.:)

Valhal 02-17-2004 17:21

These are the books I have read since posting the list on 28 Jan.

Be an expert with Map and Compass:

A good beginner course, good as a refresher, learned very little.

Get Tough: The U.S. Special Forces Physical Conditioning Program

A kick ass work out schedule. I had reservations at first, but after reading and doing I am glad I found this book.

Navy Seal Nutrition by Patricia A. Duester

Written before the carb starving craze, which is a good thing. Important info for a combat soldier.

Guerrillas In The Mist: A Battlefield Guide to Clandestine Warfare

Good survey but left me wanting more in depth info.

Warrior Soul by Chuck Pfarrer

Great book, his account of Lebanon gave me an increased understaning of that quagmire.

Mao Tse-Tung On Guerrila Warfare

After reading Guerrillas in the Mist I thought this was a great place to start my education. Not what I expected; it was better. 'Uproar in the East; Strike in the West'

The Coveted Black and Gold: A Daily Journey Through the U.S. Army Ranger School Experience

Amazing account of ranger school, I wish there was an SFAS version.



Currently reading

Insurgency & Terrorism: Inside Modern Revolutionary Warfare By: Bard E. O'Neill, Edward C. Meyer

The Hunt for Bin Laden - Robin Moore



On Deck

Sun Tsu Art of War
Read it about 15 years ago want a refresher.


Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Mark

BMT (RIP) 02-17-2004 18:22

Your Reading List
 
I am about to finish:

Project ALPHA
Sedgwick Tourison

If only half true it's enough to make a preacher curse.

BMT

William Hazen 02-18-2004 12:41

Shobu Genzo (Zen Texts)

Sparks of Genius Michelle and Robert Root Bernstein

The Social Life of Information Brown & Duguild

Critical Thinking Franchis Watanabe Dauer

The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Edward Gibbon.

William Hazen

18C/GS 0602 02-18-2004 16:46


Originally posted by Valhal

The Coveted Black and Gold: A Daily Journey Through the U.S. Army Ranger School Experience

Amazing account of ranger school, I wish there was an SFAS version.


Valhal- I finally got around to reading Danger Close by Michael Yon. It is a very good book and has a great section on SFAS/SFQC. You can get it used on Amazon for like 6$.



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...187385-4299145

Valhal 02-18-2004 17:25

Thanks bdonham, I have already read that one, but thank you for the time you took to give me a recommendation.
Mark

FILO 02-18-2004 17:40

Reading List
 
Most recent: "An Army at Dawn" by Rick Atkinson. Highly recommended.

Currently Reading: "Roosevelt's Secret War" by Joseph Persico; "Blood and Fire" by Mary Roldan; "Death Ground:Todays American Infantry in Battle" by Daniel Bolger.

Not sure about the on-deck.

Camilo 02-28-2004 17:53

Reading:
Knowledge and Decisions, Thomas Sowell
Immediate Action, Andy McNabb
The Red Queen, Matt Ridley

shootandloot 03-06-2004 10:41

Currently

The whole Jack Ryan series by Tom Clancy (currently on Hunt for Red October)
On America by Stephen Ambrose
The History of England, VOL 2 (a college text, has about 10 authors)

On Deck

The Da Vinci Code
Steal My Soldiers Heart by COL David Hackworth
The Raven and other poems and short stories by Poe

Just finished

D-Day by Stephen Ambrose (strongly recommended)
The History of England VOL 1
Collected Short Stories by Hemingway
A Moveable Feast by Hemingway

The Reaper 03-06-2004 12:20

You gents need to add some Kipling.

TR

Gypsy 03-15-2004 21:54

Just starting: Hill 488 by Ray Hildreth (survivor) and Charles W. Sasser (author of One Shot-One Kill)

"On June 13, 1966, men of the 1st Recon Battalion, 1st Marine Division were stationed on Hill 488. Before the week was over, they would fight the battle that would make them the most highly decorated small unit in the entire history of the US Military, 1 Congressional MOH, 4 Navy Crosses, 13 Silver Stars, and 18 Purple Hearts-some of them posthumously." A battalion of North Vietnamese regulars and VC outnumbered 16 Marines and 2 Navy Corpsmen 25-1 and every man who held the hill was either killed or wounded.

On deck: The Da Vinci Code

ktek01 03-15-2004 23:10

Just picked up To America by Stephen Ambrose. They had a book fair at work today and it was the only book that looked at all interesting.

DunbarFC 03-16-2004 09:45

I just bought

An Army at Dawn by Rick Atkinson

and

The Yom Kippur War : The Epic Encounter That Transformed the Middle East by Abraham Rabinovich

goat 03-21-2004 11:13

Reading

Hazardous Duty by John K. Singlaub

On Deck

Medal of Honor by Roy Benavidez

Ghost Soldiers by Hampton Sides

JGarcia 03-24-2004 11:51

Rand.
 
I cant say enough good things about Atlas Shrugged. Kipling.... hmm.

molsen 03-25-2004 00:54

The last 2 good books I read were:

"Unscathed" by Royal Marine Major Phil Ashby
"The Real Bravo Two Zero" by Michael Asher

pulque 03-26-2004 17:42

I am 3/4 through reading Five Years to Freedom, which I picked up partially because of the MoH thread regarding Rocky Versace, partially because I wanted to learn more about James N Rowe and his famous SERE school, and then lastly to fill in my knowledge about the Vietnam war.

Well, this is a great book, but very intense. It is written in a repetetive manner that stresses the inhumanity of the LNFs "lenient policy". Lots of good lessons in there, about overcoming hypocricy with passive resistance. Most of all, it is the story of an amazing hero, and the heros who he knew.

Roycroft201 04-05-2004 16:24

Suggestion
 
NG_M4_Shooter,

If you liked Atlas Shrugged, pick up Fountainhead, when you have a chance.

Roycroft201

Roguish Lawyer 04-06-2004 13:46

Re: Suggestion
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Roycroft201
NG_M4_Shooter,

If you liked Atlas Shrugged, pick up Fountainhead, when you have a chance.

Roycroft201

Oh, I like this teacher! D9, you see this? :)

Air.177 04-12-2004 15:55

I currently have quite a few books that I intend to read, but haven't yet gotten to/finished.
Here goes:
Uhuru, Robert Ruark
Fear and Loathing in America, Hunter S Thompson
On the Road, Jack Kerouac
The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test, Tom Wolfe
and an old favorite;
Been Down so Long It Looks Like Up to Me, Richard Farina

Yes; I know heavy on the 60's/ 70's counter culture. It's just that I keep seeing references to these authors and Titles in other books(especially Thompson's) and, as I have not read them, I feel that I cannot fully understand the points that the author is trying to present.

Roguish Lawyer 04-12-2004 16:05

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Originally posted by Air.177
Yes; I know heavy on the 60's/ 70's counter culture. It's just that I keep seeing references to these authors and Titles in other books(especially Thompson's) and, as I have not read them, I feel that I cannot fully understand the points that the author is trying to present.
Uh huh. Sure. ;)

Air.177 04-12-2004 16:21

OK Fine, I am trying to find out why so many of the folks who survived that time period are so F*&ked up:p

Roguish Lawyer 04-12-2004 17:37

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Originally posted by Air.177
OK Fine, I am trying to find out why so many of the folks who survived that time period are so F*&ked up
NDD has offered some very good advice which I am going to share with you:

When you're in a hole, stop digging. :p

The Reaper 04-12-2004 18:28

I recommended that he add a copy of Thompson's classic "Hell's Angels" to the list.

Just trying to help.

TR

Valhal 04-13-2004 09:07

Recent reads.

Angels and Demons Don Brown

Conan the Freebooter Robert E. Howard
Classic sword & sorcery

Air.177 04-13-2004 10:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
NDD has offered some very good advice which I am going to share with you:

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

Hell no I won't stop digging, It's Not just a hole, It's a defensive position:p

ghuinness 05-08-2004 20:50

Just finished "Cry of the Panther", James R McMullen.

On deck:
- The Third Terrorist, Davis
- SOG, Plaster (just picked it up).

Also struggling through (some of the comm guys may find these useful) :
Third Generation Systems and Intelligent Wireless Networking: Smart Antenna's and Adaptive Modulation - Blogh & Hanzo
and
Multi-antenna Transceiver Techniques for 3G and Beyond - Hottinen, Trikkonen & Wichma

mffjm8509 05-28-2004 17:06

kind of late to join this thread but I'd like to include whats currently sitting on my shelf:

Finished:

Gates of Fire, Steven Pressfield
Winning Every Day, Lou Holtz
Art of War, Sun Tzu (Clavell)
To ride, shoot straight, and speak the truth, Jeff Cooper
Principles of personal defense, Jeff Cooper
Farnam method of defensive handgunning, John Farnam
The bear went over the mountain, Lester Grau
The other side of the mountain, Jalali and Grau

Currently reading:

Beyond Terror, Ralph Peters

On Deck:

Once and Eagle, Anton Myrer
Fireworks, Jeff Cooper

pulque 05-31-2004 23:48

Today for Veteran's Day I made it a point to finally read Our Finest Day by Mark Bowden, which I had previously purchased. Besides that I enjoy the writing of Bowden, there are some interesting inserts, for those of us kids who miss "pop-up" books.

on deck: Race: The Reality of Human Differences by Vincent Sarich and Frank Miele, and The Trouble with Islam: A Muslim's Call For Reform in Her Faith by Irshad Manji

Roguish Lawyer 04-10-2006 19:38

This was a good thread, I think, so I'm closing it and starting a new one.


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