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lksteve 06-28-2005 18:10

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Originally Posted by Prester John
When I signed my contract I was told I didn't even need to take the DLAB. They said it would be administered at a later date. All 18X candidates will study languages of some sort, so it wasn't important to determine proficiency at enlistment.

what part of Defense Language Aptitude Battery has to do with proficiency? :munchin

Prester John 06-28-2005 21:02

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Originally Posted by lksteve
what part of Defense Language Aptitude Battery has to do with proficiency? :munchin

Touche, sir. I mistakenly used the wrong word. "Aptitude" was what I meant.

Achilles 06-29-2005 11:18

Broadsword:

I believe that you USED to have to pass the DLAB with an 85 to be admitted to the SFQC. That is no longer the case (according to the latest information available to me). Most information pertaining to the 18X program available on the internet (SOCNET among other sites) is outdated by at least a year.

Prester John:

I believe "loosely projected aptitude" is the phrase you are looking for. :D

HTH

lksteve 06-29-2005 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Achilles
I believe that you USED to have to pass the DLAB with an 85 to be admitted to the SFQC.

well, actually, i had to pass the ALAB... :eek:

Ammodawg 01-12-2006 03:54

Little late
 
Just for clarification, I was told last week by an Army recruiter that I needed an 80 or better on the DLAB test to qualify for a chance at going to SFAS. I just took mine today and scored a 108, not sure how "good" that is, but I was happy that the SF door is still open for me :lifter

FearMonkey 01-12-2006 14:15

85 for a Category I language (Dutch, French, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish)

90 for a Category II language (German)

95 for a Category III language (Belorussian, Czech, Greek, Hebrew, Persian, Polish, Russian, Serbian/Croatian, Slovak, Tagalog [Filipino], Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, and Vietnamese)

100+ for a Category IV language (Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, and Korean)
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I'm with Achilles on this one, now-a-days it doesn't matter what your score is for the DLAB. You can keep your 18X contract even if you bomb it (assuming you meet all the other requirements!). Also, despite myths about not being able to study for the DLAB, there is a way... I did it!

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joiningup/a/dlab.htm

elmntskater1588 01-12-2006 14:34

I took the DLAB but never got my scores back. My recruiter , Either, doesnt know how to get them or doesnt want to get them. Im a DEP for another 6 months so I have the ako account with out all the nifty features. Is it possible to get my scores?:confused:

NousDefionsDoc 01-12-2006 17:01

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Originally Posted by elmntskater1588
I took the DLAB but never got my scores back. My recruiter , Either, doesnt know how to get them or doesnt want to get them. Im a DEP for another 6 months so I have the ako account with out all the nifty features. Is it possible to get my scores?:confused:

No. Go do PT.

elmntskater1588 01-12-2006 18:30

Roger that NDD.

rwt_bkk 01-17-2006 20:05

Can't answer your question about the current requirements. I think SF is smart enough to know that some of those test are not "real worl". WAY Back before DLAT there was the ALAT. I got a 6 on it because I fell asleep during the test.

I only had very basic HS French and German (almost flunked both), later in Vietnam I learn a tribal language on my own.

Much later I moved to Thailand, I speak fluent Thai. After being here for a couple of years I returned to the states and studied Linguistics for a couple of semesters. On entry into the program I was given a tone test. I flunked! But at the time I was fluent in Thai (most Thais think I am a Thai when I first speak to them on the telephone).

A lot of things effect test scores - how awake you are, stress and who host of external factors. The real world is a different case.

I agree with NDD, get you head down and prepare for what you know is coming - this will sort itself out in time.

Scorpion6 02-11-2006 12:01

check the box
 
It seems in my experience so far, that the DLAB is just another box to check for the Army. Psyop guys have to take the DLAB as well, despite the fact that only active guys are required languages like SF. but the DLAB doesnt determine your language, the need of the Army does. the language course at Bragg is not DLI, and even if it was, as long as you study hard and are determined youll manage just fine on whatever language youre given. so take your 85 or whatever, brush it aside and drive on.

Daver 02-11-2006 20:14

Quit fretting
 
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Originally Posted by Griv
I recently took the DLAB at MEPS and scored an 83. I know this is not a good enough score to qualify for any languages at the DLI(?) so will I have to retake the test later in training? I know I can do 10x better on it if I retested and I want to learn a language. My recruiter and others are saying that you do not take the DLAB to pass or fail if you are 18X...a bit confusing!

Baby steps first! One day at a time! From what I can tell, you haven't even started Basic training? Am I correct? If so, worry about that first, then Airborne School, then SOPC, then SFAS, and then you can start worrying about your DLAB. If you're that concerned, ask the recruiter to show you "IN WRITING" where it says this score is "REQUIRED/NOT REQUIRED" to get an 18X contract. You will learn the meaning of "IN WRITING" soon enough.

Griv 02-28-2006 15:56

Im surprised this topic is still alive! Well I have been taking baby steps Daver and now im currently waiting for PLDC/BNCOC out at lovely Camp Mckall! Got selected with class 003-06 and i now know that they dont count the DLAB for nothing! I have to learn Korean! Haha. Im looking forward to my next step. As far as the DLAB - I did have to retake it again out at SFAS. I heard the reason was because i was under the 85 score limit. But others said they still scored under 85 and still have a language so big question mark for this topic.

Stiletto11 02-28-2006 16:08

Fore In Language
 
Daver

I responded to your PM, just wanted to make sure you got it. One shot at a time.


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