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Pandora 07-11-2004 21:20

Waiting with baited breath for responses to this one. If you assimilate us, do we get to keep our igloos? ;)

NousDefionsDoc 07-11-2004 21:29

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Originally posted by Pandora
Waiting with baited breath for responses to this one. If you assimilate us, do we get to keep our igloos? ;)
No, but you can keep the bacon, tastes too much like ham to me.

Pandora 07-11-2004 22:28

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No, but you can keep the bacon, tastes too much like ham to me.
Sure beats SPAM!

I know very little about economics - wouldn't the low wages in Mexico drive all of our wages down if there was a single currency?
An equalizing factor? What is the minimum wage in Mexico - if there is a minimum wage in Mexico. How do military wages and benefits compare across the borders, both northern and southern?

Roguish Lawyer 07-12-2004 10:28

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Originally posted by Sdiver
TR....if the above senerio were to play out, could you see the US getting involved, militarily?

Just thinking waaaay outside the box here, but I think that the three countries become one....The United States of North America, with one currency. Any thoughts?

During the cold war, I always thought annexing Canada would be a grand idea. We could move our ICBMs way closer to the Russkies, plus we get all that wood!

J/K LOL :p

The Reaper 07-12-2004 10:36

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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
During the cold war, I always thought annexing Canada would be a grand idea. We could move our ICBMs way closer to the Russkies, plus we get all that wood!

J/K LOL :p

And look how many independence minded French come with that deal.

No thanks.

TR

Pandora 07-12-2004 11:49

*sniff* you don't want us just because of a few rabid francophiles? Picky, picky.

Roguish Lawyer 07-12-2004 12:04

"Nous defions."

-- Frenchy Canadien de Quebec

LOL

Pandora 07-12-2004 17:22

Ok, forget the phrench - would someone clever please educate me on:

1. why I personally would benefit from assimilation
2. what the impact would be economically if there was one currency for all of North America
3. we're NOT giving up our good beer - no matter how inviting you make the offer








(btw, born in *that* province - speak not a word of the other official language, but darn, before nuking the francophiles from the next province over, could you please save the Montreal Jazz festival?)

The Reaper 07-12-2004 17:30

Pandora:

Don't take this personally, but we have all of the socialists we need in the U.S. right now, and do not want any more. I think you have even more entitlements per capita than we do. I would not want Canada as a part of my country without significant changes, and that would likely be a deal breaker. Firearms laws in Canada, for example, with a few exceptions, are intolerable to me. OTOH, you may not want to trade your beer for ours. Miller, Coors, and A-B would assimilate your breweries and change them within weeks.

The only recommendation I can make for it would be to form an economic bloc and pooling of resources to compete with the Euros or the Chinese.

I look at it this way. No matter how nice my next door neighbor seems to be, I am not sure that I would want him and his crew to move in with me and my family.

TR

Roguish Lawyer 07-12-2004 19:04

I love Canada. Then again, I am a hockey player and fan. :)

We vacation often at our timeshare in Whistler.

Pandora 07-12-2004 21:36

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Don't take this personally, but we have all of the socialists we need in the U.S. right now, and do not want any more. I think you have even more entitlements per capita than we do. I would not want Canada as a part of my country without significant changes, and that would likely be a deal breaker. Firearms laws in Canada, for example, with a few exceptions, are intolerable to me.
No offense taken at all, Sir.

As much as I am oft accused of having views more liken to Americans politically, I have to admit that I must have some latent Socialist tendancies. I'm typically a hard-liner on what (little) I try to understand of world issues; I believe in an equally dirty fight on the war on terrorism, I believe WMD aside - Saddam had to go, I dislike my government's lax stance on immigration policies, and I have a deep frustration with welfare policies/abuses up here. Still, a liberal on some issues (see the abortion thread), but more often, most Canucks would toss me out due to my "non-peacekeeping" views. Diplomacy be damned! ;)


That said, the fact that I know for certainty that I have a higher percentage of disposable income at the end of the day than my parallel coworkers in any of 26 nations does reaffirm my allegiance to the Maple Leaf on a professional level. Not to imply we're worth anymore professionally up here for my industry (IT - software), but that I wish my coworkers had the same scaled pay - we all work our behinds off.

As well, the most notable of the entitlements is state-run health care. Let me preface my next argument by saying that there are exceptions to the benefits of this system, (i.e. long wait times for MRI's and new drugs, etc.), but overall, again, based on discussions with coworkers around the world, I'm relieved that lower rung employees up can get adequate medical care for their kids without shorting them on groceries. Sounds an awful lot like a liberal stance, but I prefer to view it as "care & feeding of coworkers I respect greatly."

The Gun Registry... I hope the other ladies of PS will forgive me for stating this so bluntly, but that just a C.F. if I ever saw one. You have my entire agreement on this issue, Sir. No contest. Abysmal failure on all levels. (insert your favorite image here of the Darwin award trophies).

Now then, to the important stuff - YOU WILL NOT CHANGE OUR BREWING STANDARDS. :D Our under-paid, under-equippped, under-acknowledged lil' ole military will pelt you into submission with timbits before that's going to happen. And I don't even drink beer often. But when I do, it better have bite, eh?

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I look at it this way. No matter how nice my next door neighbor seems to be, I am not sure that I would want him and his crew to move in with me and my family.
Reasonable, but I sure hope y'all take me in when they kick me out because I like Bush. :D

Edit to add: I think Moore is an idiot, Kerry scares me, and I like grits. My paper money is prettier and easier to calculate rapidly on quick view of the wallet, I miss $2 dollar bills (what is this Looney business?), Whistler is amazing, but if I win the lotto I will be found in Scottsdale, AZ if they let this socialist/Conservative in.


Pandora 07-12-2004 21:42

for RL:

Top Ten Perks of Canadian World Domination

10. Votes are taken in the senate by hockey fights.
9. Too busy fighting with Quebec to care what the rest of the world is doing.
8. Three words: Planetary Hockey League.
7. Honour, colour, favour will be spelled correctly!
6. Moosehead & Molsen at domestic prices!
5. It would be a polite takeover.
4. Hell freezes over, making a really nice ice hockey rink.
3. Curling will replace NFL on Monday nights.
2. Finally get those damn Americans to use the metric system.
1. Civil disputes are to be settled by a single overtime period a shootout at the defendants discretion.

Pandora 07-12-2004 21:56

I still would still like someone to edumacate me on the repercussions of a single NA curreny - please/thanks?

Sdiver 07-12-2004 22:16

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Originally posted by Pandora
for RL:

Top Ten Perks of Canadian World Domination

10. Votes are taken in the senate by hockey fights.
9. Too busy fighting with Quebec to care what the rest of the world is doing.
8. Three words: Planetary Hockey League.
7. Honour, colour, favour will be spelled correctly!
6. Moosehead & Molsen at domestic prices!
5. It would be a polite takeover.
4. Hell freezes over, making a really nice ice hockey rink.
3. Curling will replace NFL on Monday nights.
2. Finally get those damn Americans to use the metric system.
1. Civil disputes are to be settled by a single overtime period a shootout at the defendants discretion.

ROTFLMMFAO
I'm dying here !!!!
That's Great.:D

Pandora 07-12-2004 22:27

I feel hours of pain, abuse and bashing coming on, but if you enjoyed that, then you are sure to have laughs here. If you read nothing else, you have to check this link.

Enter at your own risk. You WILL be assimilated.

I swear, I was really hoping to learn something in this thread before it went SOUTH.

:munchin


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