Nmap, ditto with TS. Would suggest TONS of practice with an empty firearm with Thuderwear before going live. The clenching actions of the human hand after a heavy adrenaline dump can be dangerous I've learned.

Enough encounters in the Dallas/Fort Worth area are ~ 5 feet so you'd better be very fast ripping your friend out of your shorts. Or in San Antonio, I guess you could push them into the river to buy some time.:o

People who make alternatives to the fanny pack (the owner of the notorious Pager Pal comes to mind) will bash fanny packs yet they are more discreet than you might imagine, are reasonably fast with some practice, and, contrary to popular belief, everyone does not look at you, stare at the fanny pack, and think you have a gun. I would have noticed that in the past 13 years.

Just a thought. Have more than one way to carry. Stay safe.

Again, my thanks to everyone for great ideas.

I can see a variety of benefits to the Kimber IWB - although the weight of a full-sized automatic might result in an embarrassing development. :o

Dr. Mabuse, you make some interesting points. Some other conversations I've had indicate that few (if any) notice the various fanny packs that people wear. I'm thinking of This Item, since it is large enough for anything (10 x 7 x 4) I would ever need.

It's true that I can't draw quickly; but I'm more inclined to avoid trouble than to confront it - which is, I think, best for unremarkable civilians.

A wise friend suggested that the .45 might be somewhat more than I would need or want on a daily basis, and I suspect they gave good advice. In fact, they suggested that a 9mm might be most appropriate for me. However, my selection of "nines" consists of a Glock and an all-steel S&W 559. I like the S&W a lot, but it is rather heavy.

So I may go with a SIG 239 in .40. It has tritium sites, and I doubt I will need more than the 8 round magazine capacity. It, a spare magazine, and whatever else should fit nicely in the case. Perhaps I could even add a can of pepper spray as a non-lethal alternative.

And they're short, white, rubber boots, not the thigh high leather go-go type.
Wouldn't want you to buy the wrong thing..:D

Shit. I got me a pair of thigh highs.

I carry a Kel-Tec P3AT (.380) or P32 (.32) almost all of the time, even when carrying a larger frame weapon. They are so light and small, that I can carry them in light shorts or in a shirt pocket. Yeah, I know....Rat Guns, but most encounters are so close that the "power factor" won't matter with proper shot placement. In an 8-10 foot engagement, that should not be a problem!!

They are also "Hard Chromed" so the sweat factor is not a problem.

Any questions, feel free to PM.

Later
Martin

Just tried to order a ruger LCP (.380) and the guy at the gun store laughed. HE said they stopped taking backorders when they got a year behind. They are working that backlog off...currently filling september's orders.:eek:

Fanny packs are not a problem, if you know how to conceal the fanny pack.

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Who would chance to think that Pat is concealing a firearm?

There are several on gunbroker around $350-$370. It's a bit over retail but you'd get it sooner...

You might want to consider another weapon..... seems Ruger is still working out the bugs on the LCP ;)


http://www.ruger.com/LCPRecall/

Off topic for just a second:
What other bugs do you know of aside from the accidental dischage possibility that's been very well recalled by Ruger?

And back on topic:
IWB seems to be the best option proposed thus far, unless like stated, you must tuck your shirt in. The fanny pack, while it doesn't sound horrible, may create more hassle getting to the gun, but allows you to carry more additionals (extra mag).

My personal choice is the IWB, or if clothing allows, OWB.

Not so slow,

Nice screen name. You're 23, you understand how the internet works, try googling "Ruger Recalls".
Ask me again without doing some research and I'll change your screen name to "Kinda Slow".

Team Sergeant

Sorry, But IMHO there is no such thing as an "accidental discharge" any discharge of a firearm not intended is a "NEGLIGENT DISCHARGE" If you are accident prone DO NOT CARRY A FIREARM...Regard's, tom kelly

Welll... it looks like they'll have a lot of time to continue to work things out before I get mine if I place my name on the list at the local shop. :D

Theoretically the new production run has the AD problem fixed... the retrofit work has probably reduced throughput, thus creating the HUGE backorder.

Have you shot the Kel-Tech PF-9?? I am looking for an inexpensive slim-line.