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Cold feet? put on a "head sock", or a really good hat. keep your hands warm and prevent loss of heat from your neck. preventing those sources of heat loss will help keep your feet warm. Sounds weird but works. When boots come off put on some polarguard booties and sleep with the boots to 1) dry them out, 2) keep them warm. We used to stomp a shallow trench in the snow, put out the bivy sack, slip in the ground pad and you're good to hook.
God, I HATE cold weather now. |
Spent the coldest time of my life one February near the DMZ in Korea.
Temps with wind chill down to 57 below zero. Kept rubber overshoes on leg boots while marching, VB boots when we stopped and set up camp. Not too bad in a pup tent with the old Arctic sleeping bags on air mattesses, as long as the mattress would hold air. Once it let down, the frozen ground would get chilly pretty quickly. Light a candle or can of Sterno (never heat tabs) in the tent 20 minutes or so before you got up, with all of the snow on top of the tent, it got pretty cozy till you went outside. The waterproof bag over the foot of the sleeping bag is good till the moisture condenses inside of it, then the chicken feathers freeze together and the bag has to be dried out. Slept in a watch cap, pile cap, or sleeping bag cap. Agree that if you keep your head warm, the other extremities stay warmer as well. The sleeping shirt was also helpful in the pre- poly-pro days, as were wool outergarments and field jacket/pant liners. TR |
Hey Reaper...Inside the bag.
Also used to take and wrap my feet in a poncho liner and put them in a waterproof bag inside the sleeping bag.
Doesn't sweat inthe bag. Blitzzz |
Vapor barriers?
VB = vapor barrier?
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Vapor barrier, Yes
You could get them in black but mostly in white. They were also called "Mickey Mouse" boots because of the bulbus appearence, although they wern't too bad walking in. Good to 60 below. When I was there the firsst time the PipeLine workers would pay soldiers over $300 for a pair, Some Commander got wise to it and started charging over $300 with an Artical 15. to keep troops from "loseing" them. Blitzzz
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What Activity Are You Doing?
The activity you are doing may have something to do with your cold feet. Speaking for myself, whenever I am 'inactive' my feet tend to get cold, but when I become 'active' they warm up extremely well.
As for what I personally wear, when winter camping or hiking, I have always worn a light synthetic sock (a pair of Nike cycling socks) with a pair of Canadian issue wool socks over top. My feet have always been toasty warm and oddly enough, at the end of the day when I take them off and check my feet, they (my feet) are as dry as a bone. I can't say the same for my boot liners though as they are usually soaked. I wear Sorell boots and whenever I go on overnights, I always pack an extra set of liners. |
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What I noticed today was that with my tighter Merrill hiking boots the chill from the wind seems to transmit almost immediately to the sock, the other boots I wore hunting are looser which allows for an air space between the exterior and the sock. This is makes sense because the Merriills are warmer with thinner socks. |
When mountaineering, trail running, or even hiking in the winter:
WigWam brand sock liners (unknown part #, white, very thin yet durable, synthetic fabric that wicks well. If you're concerned about blisters, check out the "double layer socks from WigWam or WrightSocks. Wool socks over the liners, I like SmartWool Goretex shoes/boots with vibram soles. BTW, stay away from The North Face gore-tex shoes, they're crap I buy all my junk from REI.com This combo has saved my ass, well my feet rather, a couple time in SHTF scenarios. Keep your feet dry, use a non-cotton, wicking layer against your feet. An additional note. This keeps your feet toasty in the cold, but is perfectly doable as "office wear" here in the PNW. My feet don't cook, HTH |
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In Korea we would fight over patches of sunlight on the ground to stand in. Once we went on a patrol and frago'd into an LP/OP for way too long. No one had any sleeping bags except for ponchos and one poncho liner. We took turns snuggling each other under the poncho+liner while the temp dropped to -40 (with the wind chill). After that everyone went out and bought better neck gaiters, gloves, (and those little space bags JIK) Bosnia wasn't bad with the trees blocking the wind. If you kept moving your blood would circulate more. But we did a lot of PT. Nearly every morning consisted of a 5 mile perimeter run around the camp. That really helped with the CW conditioning more than anything. We were the old cotton PTs. In fact our section was the only unit that didn't wear goretex or bear suits on a casual basis because we were comfortable in just BDU's poly pro. Utah...we were sent there with the wrong gear basically. The weather got real cold real fast. Had just regular boots. Ended up putting on wet weather boots to keep the cold moisture out (and in apparently). I spent a lot of time wriggling my toes and flexing my feet when stationary. When I took the boots off at the end of the day the leather was soaked. They spent all night in front of the heater and were crusty every morning. Lessons learned: * protect the key areas: head, neck, hands, feet * have the proper boots * change socks regularly * include more cardiovascular in your PT (if you're there awhile) Improves circulation * have the proper gear. On a light patrol in cold areas split one sleep system between four as a minimum. Additionally it helps to if each person has a poncho+liner of their own. If you have to hunker down awhile you have enough gear for a sleep rotation. |
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I have poor circulation in my feet and hands. I'm always inclined to put more on my feet to keep them warm, but that frequently backfires. Putting on enough to keep them warm when I'm inactive is ok, but the minute I become active they slip from warm to too warm and they sweat. Once there's moisture around my feet, they rapidly cool off and then they get cold whether I'm active or not. Doesn't matter what kind of fibers they are contained within, wet socks + inactivity = cold feet.
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Wicking WigWam brand socks are approx $8 at REI. When on outdoor excursions, I wear a wicking layer sock and a wool sock over it. I sweat like a pig and usually dont have wet feet. Wicking shirts and glove liners are also fantastic. Layers is key, and the base layer should always be a thin wicking one. And with modern fabrics, you can layer well without looking like an Eskimo. HTH |
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From your profile, you know the type of weather I'm referring to here in the PNW, but I'm speaking of those times when you are not moving outside - inactivity - how you dress for it is different then dressing for activity. LL |
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