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Divorces are a matter of public record shouldn't they publish a list of all the divorces filed in the state each month?
It's not really funny but I get the feeling that if a conservative State Rep. brought a bill before the Ohio statehouse that would require that all convicted sex offenders had to have their names, picture, address, car make, model and license plate number printed monthly I am sure that the Plains Dealer would express "grave reservations" about doing so. I guess what goes around comes around. In their politically motivated actions the Plains Dealer have exposed themselves for who they really are. No wonder why their circulation is dropping annually. I get the feeling that most reporters can no long make a distinction between reporting the news and creating it. Newspapers are no longer the reporters of facts but advocacy groups pretending to not have a point of view. They have gotten away with it for a while but it is finally catching up to them. |
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http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/trejbal/wb/108160 Here's what Christian Trejbal at the Roanoke Times did with the info he got in VA: Editor's note: The database has been removed. Read the statement. Today is the start of Sunshine Week, the annual week in which we reflect on the importance of open government and public records. To mark the occasion, I want to take you on an excursion into freedom of information land. We're going to find out who in the New River Valley has a concealed handgun permit. I can hear the shocked indignation of gun-toters already: It's nobody's business but mine if I want to pack heat. Au contraire. Because the government handles the permitting, it is everyone's business. There are good reasons the records are open to public scrutiny. People might like to know if their neighbors carry. Parents might like to know if a member of the car pool has a pistol in the glove box. Employers might like to know if employees are bringing weapons to the office. And all Virginians have a stake in checking that their government is not making mistakes, for example, by issuing permits to convicted felons. Open records allow the media or any private citizen to check. This is not about being for or against guns. There are plenty of reasons people choose to carry weapons: fear of a violent ex-lover, concern about criminals or worry that the king of England might try to get into your house. There are plenty of reasons to question the wisdom of widespread gun ownership, too. But that's a debate for another time. To illustrate the open government process, I set out to acquire permit lists for the New River Valley. I first called the local circuit court clerks charged with overseeing permitting. They were helpful, as far as they could be. Only Radford and Floyd County said they could produce a list. Giles County maintains an unofficial list but could not produce an official one. Montgomery and Pulaski counties had squat. The best they could do is determine if a specific individual had a permit. None of that conflicts with the law. The records must be available but not necessarily in the format citizens want. Fortunately, one of the clerks tipped me off to another avenue. The state police, she thought, maintained a master list. I called Richmond and found out that yes, they did have a statewide list. Bingo! Then another lesson of open government hit. A copy would cost more than $100. Any Virginian can show up at a government office and request a public document. If it is something simple such as a council agenda, officials usually gladly duplicate it, maybe charging a few cents for the photocopy. If it is something more complicated, government agencies may charge for the time and effort to prepare the records. In the case of concealed handgun permits, state police need to weed through them to cut out some personal data, which takes staff time. A state that eagerly puts sex offender data online complete with an interactive map could easily do the same with gun permits, but it does not. I bit the bullet and placed my order, saving the paper a few bucks by taking a Jan. 18 list officials had recently prepared for someone else. The compact disc arrived last week. Names, addresses, issue and expiration dates. About 2 percent of Virginians, 135,789 of us, have concealed handgun permits. In the New River Valley, 3,826 people have them, a slightly higher rate than in the rest of the state. I immediately started checking some names. Virginia Tech football coach Frank Beamer, no permit. Pulaski County Supervisor Dean Pratt, packing. Radford University President Penelope Kyle, no permit. Giles County Supervisor Paul "Chappy" Baker, packing. Some of the names proved tricky. Dana Dwayne Munsey of Pembroke has a permit. Is that Mayor Munsey? Standoffish town officials wouldn't provide a middle name or address for confirmation, and the listed phone number is disconnected. The list sports a dismayingly large number of typos for an official registry -- four different spellings of "Christiansburg," for example. Local celebrities generally don't carry, but at least a half dozen elected officials do. I'll leave it to readers to figure out which ones so you can avoid annoying them at meetings. As a Sunshine Week gift, The Roanoke Times has placed the entire database, mistakes and all, online at www.roanoke.com/gunpermits. You can search to find out if neighbors, carpool partners, elected officials or anyone else has permission to carry a gun. Open government laws arose from distrust of government. They guarantee citizens can watch what government does in their names, including issuing gun permits. Christian Trejbal is an editorial writer for The Roanoke Times based in the New River Valley bureau in Christiansburg. |
I want to know if my daughter's boyfriend has a disease. Will Mr. Trejbal publish a list of those trreated at county facilities?
How about a criminal records check on the young man? Is that not public record? Have you ever been arrested, Mr. Trejbal? Convicted? Of what and when? What about a quick reference of all sex offenders in his area? Will he print that as well? See, my pistol needs an operator to make it work. The sex offender has all of his equipment needed except for a victim. Which is the greater threat? Let's pull up the stats for people wrongfully shot by a CCW holder and plot it against the number of editorial writers who are arrested for crimes? Fair enough? What about divorce records? Tell me all of the juicy details, Mr. Trejbal. I might discover that a friend who claims to be single is not. Drug or alcohol offenses? I have a right to know. Let's mark their houses on a map, shall we? Domestic violence locations and the personnel involved? Where is that list? How about a quick list of all of the addresses of young people getting driver's licenses? That should be public knowledge as well. Those kids kill a lot more people every year than CCW holders. Who has been convicted of DUIs? They are more of a threat to me that a firearm. Now that would be a real public service. Name changes? That is a public record as well. How about a list of all media personnel, and their personal data, since the First Amendment comes before the Second. Where does your editor live? Does he have kids? Where do they go to school? How about sex crime victims? I pay for the trial, I have a right to know who is making these allegations, don't I, Christian? Hey, what about addresses of the recently deceased? I am curious about where they might have lived, and if they have a spouse that I might need to know more about. Thanks to Mr. Trejbal, good to know that Big Brother is being assisted in Roanoke by "The Roanoke Times". Appreciate it, Mr. Trejbal. If that is your real name. I wonder what we can find out about you? http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/breaking/wb/108505 Please direct any comments (polite of course) to: Christian R. Trejbal 675 School Ln. Christiansburg, VA 24073 christian.trejbal@roanoke.com ctrejbal@bendbulletin.com 541-617-7837 540-381-1645 Born: 9/15/1970 http://maps.google.com/?q=675+School...m=1&iwloc=addr He just bought the house on School Lane for $115,000. 1 008764 497- 15 27,28 TREJBAL CHRISTIAN J 675 SCHOOL LN CHRISTIANSBURG 675 SCHOOL LN CHRISTIANSBURG VA 24073 SPRADLIN ADD LOTS 27,28 SPRADLIN ADDITION 27,28 0859-0225 2006 008321 $25500 $64200 $89700 $0 CS R3 CR060400 13-JUL-06 $116000 1.5 1948 6 3 1 812 1314 TREJBAL SCHOOL 116000 [polygon] 26226 Mr Trejbal is unmarried, but lives with another man, according to the records. I would assume thast he is unarmed, since the records show no indication of a CCW. Maybe his "roommate" has one. This is all public records as well, and you have a right to know this. TR |
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Regulation being the key component to carrying concealed permits. Here in Kentucky it's perfectly legal to open carry without a permit to carry concealed. for a couple of years I actually did carry openly, but not without being detained on three occassions by the local PD and one time disarmed and held in cuffs till the situation was resolved by the Chief of Police of the City. Which would the govenment, be it state or local prefer ? That I carry openly or concealed ? Which is cause for more concern ? Openly or concealed ? The CCW permit get's the state it's revenue, but do the local PD know that when I'm standing next to them at the local donut shop that I'm sporting an H&K USP .45 ACP with two extra mags under my jacket ? Which would they prefer ? Since we now know that Mr. Trejbal lives with another man we can safely assume he's smoking sausage and cleaning his rectal cavity with more than toilet paper. How's it feel Mr. Trejbal to have your records in the public ? Mr. Trejbal your house cost a mere $115,000 can you not afford more, or are both you and your live in pool boy still looking through the rose colored glasses of the government to assist both you and your pool boy to gain access to benefits that married couples have under legal marriage. |
He was getting his ass hammered pretty good on their msg board...they started getting selective on posts they are allowing though - specifically any of the publically available info on the Asstard who ran the article...
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No bomb at editorial writer's home By Donna Alvis-Banks and Paul Dellinger roanoke.com/news/nrv/breaking/wb/108505 Seems a DHL customer package was delivered and prompted a frightened editor to call the bomb squad. The neighbors saw the DHL truck deliver the box. Self initiated for sympathy points? The paper has ceased posting the database. The column ran Sunday, and on monday "The Roanoke Times removed the database from its Web site Monday afternoon due to concern that it might include names that should not have been made public, president and publisher Debbie Meade said." The bomb article was posted Tuesday. |
Christain Trejbal Fan site.
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Ooops. Christian may want to stop by the courthouse and pick up a CC permit application....sooner rather than later.....what with all those little reds dots on his COM and the ARCLIGHT inbound and all. TR-very nicely done- Karl Edit to add: Sorry, forgot. Sheep don't carry concealed weapons. |
:) This is why I like knowing you guys. Humorous, insightful, intelligent and smattered with important points like a 00 buck pattern from an 870.
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Brilliant, TR.
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If someone like this ass-clown even peeked out around here, well, we in the South know what to do! :mad: On fire...and running! Holly |
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