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tonyz 04-26-2013 19:20

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 503987)
For years I used to think, "I'll never be able to fathom why isn't it obvious to libs."

They know the deal, but CCW people terrify them because they know they'll never fully control them.

The vast majority of concealed carry holders never commit a crime with a firearm. We had a thread around here a year or so ago that cited statistics from TX and FL supporting that notion. IIRC, the favorable numbers were compelling.

Lawful, concealed carry folks are overwhelmingly responsible.

It is far easier for the libs to pass a feel good law that punishes/controls the good 99% of concealed carry folks for the actions of the 1% than to address that 1% and the criminals and mentally ill.

Dusty 04-27-2013 08:12

If Joe Says it, it Must be True. Like 500,000 Jobs a Month.
 
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/DA5TMD5G0


lol Talk about bassackward reasoning!

Vice President Joe Biden said Friday that Arizona Sen. John McCain probably would have beat his boss in the 2008 presidential election had the economy not collapsed.

Biden's comment about McCain and President Barack Obama came during the opening dinner of an annual forum among the Red Rocks of Sedona in northern Arizona. He and McCain, a Republican, touched on the gun control debate following the Newtown shootings and the bombings in Boston, but made no mention of Syria. Just as the night came to a close, Biden turned to the grueling nature of presidential campaigns.

"The truth of the matter is, Barack knows it, I know, had the economy not collapsed around your ears, John, in the middle of literally _ as things were moving _ I think you probably would have won," Biden said. "But it would have been incredibly, incredibly, incredibly close. You inherited a really difficult time."

The forum is part of the McCain Institute for International Leadership, a program formed by McCain as a way to debate foreign affairs. This year's theme for the Sedona Forum is "How can we promote freedom and democracy effectively?"

Rather than a discussion between McCain and Biden, the two sat on stage together with McCain posing questions to his former Democratic adversary on gun control and whether background checks are necessary, human rights abuses at the hands of the United States and the recent bombings at the Boston marathon.

McCain and Biden both said that despite their disagreements, they've never lost respect for one another.

On gun control, Biden said it's never been a simple issue, but that Congress has miscalculated how deeply the public feels about it and has failed to stand up to groups like the National Rifle Association, particularly after the shootings in Newtown. He said the public is looking to Congress to be mature enough to figure out a way to diminish the chance it will happen again.

"For the first time ever, you have people who are for gun safety, for increasing background checks," Biden said. "Two out of three of them say it will be a major determining factor in how I vote. That's the political dynamic that has changed. So I think we're going to get this anyway. I think this will pass before the year is out, within this Congress."
In responding to a question about the vulnerabilities of the United States when it comes to terrorist attacks, Biden said that the radical, lone wolves have been the most difficult to catch. But he said America shouldn't change its values, how it treats people abroad or people coming into the United States. Nor should America adopt policies that keep people from freely walking down the street without being frisked by police or carrying identification cards, he said.

"The moment we change any of those things, that's when they win," Biden said. "Because they don't see how you can have a society that is not ordered and regimented and wedded to an orthodoxy that is theirs. That's the point that bothers them most about us."

McCain followed up by saying that those who tortured U.S. prisoners, in violation of the Geneva convention, should be exposed and be held responsible to prevent repeated abuses.

Biden agreed with the man once held as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. He said the internal debate in Congress and at the White House is how things got to that point, but it's not yet resolved.

"I think the only way you excise the demons is you acknowledge what happened, straightforward," Biden said.

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MR2 05-01-2013 06:35

Controversy over pro-gun billboard in Colorado

tonyz 05-01-2013 07:28

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004 (Post 504668)
California may outright ban semiautomatic rifles that accept detachable magazines.

Hope the gangs and cartel folks get that memo - what a crock of shite.

grog18b 05-01-2013 19:40

Just another "ban" that we will someday get around to throwing out like Heller...

Destrier 05-15-2013 05:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F1nPSNnaBo

I hope to see more of this guys PSA's.

Paslode 05-20-2013 07:06

Calif. law takes effect on microstamping guns
 
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LOS ANGELES -- A California law that requires all semi-automatic handguns to be equipped with technology that stamps its identifying information on bullet casings is now in effect after years of delays.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/05/18/543...#storylink=cpy
It will be interesting to see how and if this helps law enforcement.....or if anyone gets framed because someone picked up some casing and dropped them at a crime scene.

The Reaper 05-20-2013 16:55

Several states have required sample bullets be submitted for years, and to my knowledge, they haven't solved any crimes with them so far.

TR

Badger52 05-25-2013 06:23

IL House passes initial carry measure
 
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SPRINGFIELD, Ill. – Gun owners could carry concealed weapons in Illinois, the last state in the nation to prohibit it, under legislation that swept through the House Friday with the backing of the powerful Democratic speaker from Chicago, a city torn by violence despite what critics claim are the nation's toughest firearms restrictions.

The historic 85-30 vote would allow the carrying of concealed guns, a legislative task compelled by a federal appeals court ruling and precipitated by House Speaker Michael Madigan's turnabout.

But its obliteration of all local gun laws, including Chicago's ban on assault-style weapons, drew immediate resistance from Gov. Pat Quinn, a Chicago Democrat like Madigan. Quinn said the proposal endangers the public by pre-empting local gun laws, which have nothing to do with concealed carry, the only subject covered by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' decree.

LINK to story here.
Long row to hoe.

MR2 05-25-2013 07:32

Thanks Badger.

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Originally Posted by Article
"We need strong gun-safety laws that protect the people of our state. Instead, this measure puts public safety at risk," Quinn said in a prepared statement.

Senate President John Cullerton, another Democrat from Chicago, called the pre-emption provision "offensive." Cullerton said he would meet privately with his majority caucus Monday to decide how to proceed. A Senate concealed-carry plan, which overrules local control only by requiring a statewide carry program, is on the Senate floor awaiting a vote.

IMO, we need good laws not strong (or weak) laws. Unfortunately it is the bad laws/policy that Gov. Quinn and his ilk have advocated that caused the very dangerous safety issues in that state, not to mention the Supreme Court ruling against them.

Badger52 06-05-2013 06:41

IL Senate Update: Passed 45-12
 
Ostensibly enough to override a veto.

LINK to Reuters article here.

One snippet from a similar article in OutdoorHub (eZine):
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The bill will in essence change Illinois into a “shall-issue” state as well as setting up a seven-member permit review board to be appointed by the governor.
And privacy violated & permit information is leaked to the media in 3 - 2 - ...

Ret10Echo 06-05-2013 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 507727)
Several states have required sample bullets be submitted for years, and to my knowledge, they haven't solved any crimes with them so far.

TR

Yup... The PDRM (Peoples Dimocratic Republic of Maryland) has a program....and no, I've not heard of any cases where the imaging was attributed.


Meanwhile... The petition drive to put recent gun laws on the ballot here failed to gather sufficient signatures....

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Maryland's new gun control law, signed in May by Gov. Martin O'Malley, has survived its first challenge.

Organizers of a petition drive to get the law onto the ballot in 2014 failed to turn in any signatures by Friday night's deadline, said Steve Ackerman of the Office of the Secretary of State.

Ret10Echo 06-07-2013 15:26

The "rest" of MD is not drinking the Kool-Aide
 
Like many other places...the Libo-urbanite-dims in a small geographical area cause the rest of the state harm.

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Local officials revolt against Maryland gun control law

Friday - 6/7/2013, 12:44pm ET

WASHINGTON - There is a slowly growing revolt within rural Maryland counties against the state's new gun control package.

The measure, dubbed Maryland's Firearm Safety Act of 2013, was passed and signed this year after being championed by Governor Martin O'Malley.

Among other things, the law bans more than 45 different kinds of weapons, puts a 10-bullet limit on magazines and requires new handgun purchasers to be licensed and fingerprinted during a rigorous background check.

Lawmakers in both Carroll and Cecil counties have, in recent weeks, adopted resolutions refusing to utilize county resources to enforce provisions in the gun control package.
Full article here

Oh...and that O'mullet gastropod...he's got his starry eyes fixed on D.C.


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