Jack,

Would you make the paper available for review please? Is it a digital file?

Thanks,

Maya

Bring it on....
 

Just as with the islamic children dancing around and poking mutated American bodies and there was NO muslin/islamic outcry condemning these actions there are no counter editorials condemning the cry for jihad against the Americans.

There is no islamophobia coursing through my veins, just the opposite, bring it on.

Team Sergeant



The Washington Times:

Commentary: Oozing venom and jihad

By Arnaud de Borchgrave
UPI Editor at Large


Washington, DC, Aug. 16 (UPI) -- Expose the subversive activities of Islamist extremists around the world or in the United States, and speedy CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) pops up with accusations of Islamophobia.

Before Abdurahman Alamoudi, a U.S. citizen and prominent leader of Washington's Muslim community, confessed to a Libyan-funded assassination plot, CAIR denounced his detractors as Muslim-bashers. CAIR suddenly fell silent when Alamoudi plea-bargained with the United States for a lighter sentence, in the range of a quarter of a century, instead of life for his part in a plot by Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi to assassinate Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Abdullah.

It would behoove CAIR to care more about an institutional memory called MEMRI -- The Middle East Media Research Institute -- and read or listen to what it plucks daily from Islam's airwaves.

Recent samples:

-- "I say to you the American people, according to the Koran ... your lives are lost, you will collapse, and America will collapse." (Friday Sermon at Tehran U. titled "America will collapse).

-- "The liberated Western woman works more with her breasts than with her hands, dancing in brothels. ... Where are the lies about her liberation and the honor accorded her?" (Friday Sermon in Medina, Saudi Arabia).

-- "From the day civil strife began in Islam, the Jews were behind it. There is no evil in the world that the Jews were not behind. (Saudi Sheikh Abd Al-Qader Hammad's sermon titled "A Muslim is not allowed to open his Heart to the enemy of Allah").

-- "The Jews are behind all moral corruption and perverse thinking. This is a putrid history whose stench is sickening (Friday sermon in Bahrain titled "Treachery Runs in the Jews' Blood").

-- "Why do your brethren want to perform martyrdom operations? Why are there so many martyrs among us? Because we are a nation graved with Allah's mercy. Because with every Shahid (martyr), Allah saves 70 of his family members who had been destined for the fires of Hell (Sheikh Abu Hamza Al-Masri in Jordan).

-- "The Jews in France go back to the history of the Holocaust and Auschwitz and use these events to gain sympathy. But the magic of these events is gone." (Day of Solidarity with Al-Manar TV titled, "Yes, Our Discourse Is Anti-Semitic.).

-- "Bush's crimes are a direct continuation of Hitler's genocide. By controlling and censoring the news about the war in Iraq, the U.S. prevented the publication of information regarding its chemical and biological bombardment of Iraq" (Iranian TV news commentary).

Pakistan, promoted major non-NATO ally (MNA) by the Bush Administration, has an Urdu-language press that also oozes venom daily:

-- "Allah has told us to make atom bombs. America is telling us not to. Who should we listen to O Muslims, Allah or America? Jihad, jihad, jihad is the answer" (Mohammed Ishaq, one of leaders of MMA, six-party politico-religious coalition).

-- "I have come here because my duty is to tell you that Muslims should not rest in peace until we have destroyed America and India" (Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, chief of Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, at Jamia Ghousia mosque, Rawalpindi).

-- "We pray Iraqis will continue to resist American tyranny and terror, and we believe victory will come to them. ... The invasion was motivated by U.S. designs to grab the oil of the Iraqi people and enslave them" (Masood Azhar, chief of Jaish-e-Mohammad).

-- "We have the nuclear capability that can destroy ... Tel Aviv. Washington cannot stop suicidal attacks. Taliban are still alive, and with their friends they will continue the holy war against the U.S." (Qazi Hussain Ahmed, president MMA, Islamabad)

-- "There are thousands ready to go to for Jihad, but they are waiting for a request from Taliban. ... (Pakistani President Pervez) Musharraf is playing the role of an informer of the U.S., and Islam declares the death penalty on such people" (Senator Sami ul-Haq, MMA vice-President).

-- "The real war has just started. After Palestine and Afghanistan, Iraq will now give birth to more holy warriors. Who will free me from the clutches of Jews?" (Joint statement by Jaish-e-Mohammad, Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, Jamiat-ul-Mujahideen).

In most parts of the Muslim world, the war against global terrorism is viewed as a U.S.-Israel crusade, engineered by an alliance of neo-conservatives and the Christian Right, against Islam and the Muslims. Pictures and video of dead women and children during the siege of Fallujah; the Abu Ghraib prison pictures of U.S. Army guards humiliating Iraqi inmates; U.S. troops firing at Iraqi insurgents from behind headstones in the huge Shiite cemetery in Najaf, or forcing Iraqi civilians to lie face down in the street, hands behind their necks -- all have combined to a steady stream of hate-filled commentaries in Muslim newspapers and on Arab satellite TV channels.

With anti-U.S. feelings running high on Arab streets, Middle Eastern governments are reluctant to open the valves of reform lest newfound freedoms backfire against the regimes that initiate them. Reforms at this juncture could well promote the kind of radical elements they are intended to neutralize. Democracy, U.S.-style, has given reforms a bad name.

It is hard to escape the conclusion Iraq, during the past 18 months, has been a force multiplier for the kind of Islamist extremism that breeds more, not fewer, recruits for transnational terrorism.


http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...3605-6857r.htm

Anybody read Foreign Intelligence:Research and Analysis in the Office of Strategic Services 1942-1945 by Barry M. Katz?

There is some good stuff on re-vamping the German education system post-WWII in there and the problems the MG faced with getting rid of Nazism in German society. The German emigrees had some interesting thoughts, especially about the universities.

Do you think they managed to get rid of Nazism in German society?
The current culture there as personally experienced seems to hint at denial more than acceptance and moving on and preventing a reccurance. The same culture, again in my personal experience, exists in Japan. I think the question of whether the attempts to remove Nazism and Jingoism from German and Japanese socieities were respectively successful will only be answered by history.

Solid

I see a lot more acknoweledgement and acceptance from the Germans, who have Death Camps as reminders, to the Japanese, who are still in denial and have tried to portray themselves as victims.

The German history books cover Nazism and WWII as a bad period in their history, the Japanese would like to pretend that era of Imperialism and expansion never occurred, and seek to blame others.

FWIW, the atrocities they committed on civilians were just as bad, and with respect to US POWs, infinitely worse than the Nazis.

TR

What a long and great piece that is.

I have been coming back to the following article since it was written. I don't think it adresses the "Are we at war with Islam" question directly. It does however say that we are not alone in a war with extremists.

http://www.mafhoum.com/press2/63P58.htm

PARIS -- The accelerating number of ever-bloodier outrages committed in the name of Islam has produced a curious transatlantic split over how this religion is to be seen.

A plurality of Americans (46 percent) believes that Islam is more likely than other faiths to encourage violence among its believers, according to a new survey released by the Washington-based Pew Forum on Religion and Pubic Life.

Yet more Americans take a positive than a negative view of Islam (39 vs. 37 percent). Meanwhile, European scholars interpret this result as a sign of "American naivitÈ" when it comes to judging the radical Muslim threat.

"This is in line with the tenor of 90 percent of the books on Islam currently oozing out of the United States," said Christine Schirrmacher, president of the Islamic Studies institute in Bonn, Germany.

"Every theologian over there seems to feel compelled these days to pen an apologetic tome on this religion, and almost all of these books are of questionably scholarship, except for those written by bona fide experts, who are often remarkably profound."

These sharp words are part of an astonishing phenomenon: In formerly "liberal" Europe, a radical turnaround in the public, scholarly and theological perception of Islam is underway, according to Schirrmacher and other specialists.

"People over here have come to believe that Islam is not comparable with Christianity," said the Rev. Hans Voecking, key Islamic affairs adviser to the Brussels-based Commission of European Catholic Bishops' Conferences.

Schirrmacher -- who is frequently traveling around the continent addressing a vast array of civic, military, police, foreign service and religious organizations -- observed amazing changes in her audiences' responses.

"It used to be that at every one of these events, some people would get up claiming that Muslims are much nicer and much more faithful than Christians with their history of crusades and inquisition.

"This is over," Schirrmacher went on. "Now I keep hearing: 'We must return to our Christian heritage.' You no longer hear the phrase, 'After all, aren't we all alike? Don't we all want the same?"

There will no doubt be mainstream media tut-tutting over this, but it is a necessary development, which even self-proclaimed moderate Muslims should welcome: how can they successfully reform Islam if no one will admit that anything about it needs reform?
Posted at September 14, 2004 10:09 AM
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003196.php

Anybody happen to see O'Reilly tonight? I don't watch it much, but he had a segment on with this very thread question. Sam Harris was the guest I believe.

Lets see... small group of "zelots" hijack an established religion, follow a controversial leader, utilize the cornerstone book of said religion to base all "their" interpretations on how life should be lived, and finally, glorify the act of self sacrifice to reach paradise. Of course, I'm speaking about the Heavens Gate Cult that committed mass suicide some years ago.... what else would it be?
Yet we had no problem labeling them "misfits" and "crackpots" outright.

In my humble opinion, the question of "Are we at war with Islam" has already been answered. If a conservative estimate of the global muslim population is 1.27 Billion and "only" between 2 to 5% are considerd fundamentalist - thats a heck of a lot of people tellin' me - its on! We are not the one identifying this as a religious war, they are. Start by looking at how THEY identify themselves - supporters of the sharia, supporters of the sunna, islamic jihad, party of god, holy warriors, etc... "Allah Akbar" has now become synonymous with roadside IED's cranking off and beheadings - which is still taught in Saudi high school text books as a correct way to smite the non-believers. (Beheadings that is - although I haven't seen the 2004 text yet - this may contain an appendix for the IED part) Since OBL's fatwa to ABC newsman John Miller in Afghanistan we have not believed one simple fact - strict Sharia Law leaves only two options to the true hardcore jihadist CONQUER of KILL the kaffurs (non-believers).

Does what is happening in the Sudan change anybody's mind about "Are we at war with Islam"?

Nope!! We are at war with Islamic Terrorists who purport to be conducting a holy war. The operative word is "terrorist". I imagine they comprise about 1% of the Moslem faithful. IMO if you focus on religion you lose focus on the true enemy.

I think it's time for a poll.

If you are at war with someone, and no one admits it, is it really a war?

TR