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Stiletto11 02-23-2013 21:58

Here is a response from one of my hacks hell bent on riding the wave of gun control:



Thank you for contacting me about how we can prevent future gun tragedies. I appreciate your correspondence and hope that you find this response helpful.

Gun violence prevention is a sensitive and complicated issue that can be very divisive. While we may not agree on all aspects of how to best enact change, it is important to remember that we do all have the same priorities at heart: the safety of our children, the traditions of our forefathers, and the freedom of our fellow Americans. I can assure you that I am working hard every day to ensure that all of these priorities can be achieved.

Newtown will forever be a reminder of what can happen when even one deranged person can gain access to a deadly weapon. Newtown was not the first time it happened, but I am committed to making sure it is among the last. Too many lives have been traumatically ended or interrupted by gun violence, and our nation has waited too long to establish real safeguards that are capable of protecting the lives of our children and families. Now is the time to work together to establish stronger common sense gun laws that will simultaneously protect our Constitutional rights and keep Americans safe.

As you may be aware, I recently announced my support for the Assault Weapons Ban of 2013 , a bill that would take critical steps towards eliminating high-capacity magazines and military-style assault weapons that are designed to inflict deadly harm and mass casualties. Specifically, this bill will ban semiautomatic weapons that can accept detachable magazines and have at least one military feature, as well as eliminating high-capacity ammunition feeding devices. It excludes weapons that are used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement, as well as antique weapons and a specific list of 2,258 makes and models of legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns. Passing this legislation is an important first step in preventing a mass shooting in the future.

But there is still more work to be done. Research has demonstrated again and again that background checks are effective in keeping guns out of the hands of potential criminals, and most American households--gun-owners and non-owners alike--agree on the importance of this safeguard. Unfortunately, 40% of gun sales today do not require background checks because they are private sales, made over the internet or at gun shows through non-licensed dealers. We need to increase the efficacy of our existing program by closing these loopholes and making it harder for dangerous people to obtain deadly weapons.

Further, preventing the next Newtown is not only about reducing access to the deadliest of weapons. Mental illness is a common thread among the perpetrators of recent mass shootings, and identification and treatment of potentially dangerous people must be made a priority. At the same time, we must recognize that there is absolutely no inherent connection between mental illness and violent behavior, and any steps we take to address these issues must not further stigmatize mental illness or discourage individuals and families from seeking diagnosis and treatment.

As we debate ways to stop gun violence, we must also ensure that the conversation does not stop at Newtown, but encompasses the thousands of victims of gun violence across the country every year. Specifically, too many urban neighborhoods are plagued by unacceptably high rates of gun violence. Better access to mental health care and smarter, more effective common sense gun laws can reduce this violence, and I will do everything I can to address this issue not only in the coming months, but every day that I am serving in the United States Senate.

Thank you again for contacting me about this matter. I appreciate hearing from you and assure you that I will always do my best to represent the views of my constituents in the Senate. In the future, please do not hesitate to call me in my Connecticut office at (860) 549-8463 or my Washington office at (202) 224-4041.

Every Best Wish,

Christopher S. Murphy
United States Senator

Stiletto11 02-23-2013 22:00

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 492592)
And I bet Christie signs it.

TR

Yup, Christie has always been anti gun.

Utah Bob 02-24-2013 06:18

And pro Twinkie.

orion5 02-24-2013 13:33

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Originally Posted by Utah Bob (Post 493037)
And pro Twinkie.

You're awful...but in a funny, intolerant kind of way. :D

Flagg 02-24-2013 13:56

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 492964)

The Supreme Court is where the 2nd Amd will live or die. 3 1/2 years to sweat it out.

That's probably my biggest concern.....the Supreme Court.

Hopefully the remainder of the right side of the Court doesn't croak or retire and upset the yin-yang balance of "The Force".

Almost tied for 1st with me is seeing President Obama pick Mary Jo White(Wall Street's best legal friend) to head the SEC. Which would have been like John Gotti's old lawyer Bruce Cutler that got him off so many times made the District Attorney of NYC.....except instead of millions, we're talking trillions.

Who's been prosecuted on Wall Street of substance(beyond obvious ponzi schemers) since "Bush's buddies" at Enron and Worldcom got thrown in jail under President Bush's watch?

When's the last time anyone did a perp walk?

The story behind John Corzine is simply unbelievable.

There's some pretty big and very bad stuff getting smashed through while both the left and the right are bickering over the 2A.

While I reckon the 2A battle is very real, I also think it's a convenient distraction.

BryanK 02-25-2013 06:48

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 492448)
You're in the same boat as most other's Bob... The dense urban centers are dictating what the rest of the State does (or doesn't do). Our version here in the flatlands is the elitist libo-crowd and the entitlement handout metro counties control the State....the rest suffer.

The rest will suffer indeed. I was listening to talk radio this morning, and they were discussing how Beretta is going elsewhere should the governors' gun bill go all the way. Link:

Washington Post article

Ret10Echo 02-25-2013 18:35

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Originally Posted by BryanK (Post 493159)
The rest will suffer indeed. I was listening to talk radio this morning, and they were discussing how Beretta is going elsewhere should the governors' gun bill go all the way. Link:

Washington Post article

I don't understand why ANY national or international-level business stays in the PDRM. Those idiots in Assapolis spend their days trying to figure out creative ways to rip everyone off. Virginia is too close (but they are being overwhelmed as well).

Beretta...head on down to the Tidewater region. You'll be welcomed I'm sure.

I'd be shaking the dust from my sandals as soon as possible.

Pete 02-26-2013 14:47

Guntersville authorities would confiscate guns of “unruly” individuals during disaste
 
Guntersville authorities would confiscate guns of “unruly” individuals during disasters

http://www.infowars.com/city-wants-p...during-crisis/

Why the push for this law? As the individuals state in the story LEOs already have the power to deal with "unruly" individuals.

"Guntersville (Ala.) Mayor Leigh Dollar is working with city officials to pass an ordinance that would give police the power to “disarm individuals” during a disaster, a chilling example of how the second amendment is being assaulted via the back door..........................."

"Give us your guns" "No" "Unruly - take 'um down"

nousdefions 02-26-2013 15:33

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Originally Posted by Ret10Echo (Post 493263)

I'd be shaking the dust from my sandals as soon as possible.

Come on down to Texas, the weather is fine....except for Amarillo.....:cool:

Badger52 02-26-2013 18:22

Lotta pre-emption stuff, but...
 
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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 493399)
Guntersville authorities would confiscate guns of “unruly” individuals during disasters

Thanks for posting. Another article (assume the typical news-cycle self-abuse including the video) had the same thing but included this:
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The Code of Alabama, 31-9-10, Section C 2 states:

A law enforcement officer who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer’s official duties may disarm an individual if the officer reasonably believes that it is immediately necessary for the protection of the officer or another individual. The officer shall return the firearm to the individual before discharging that individual unless the officer arrests that individual for engaging in criminal activity or seizes the firearm as evidence pursuant to an investigation for the commission of a crime or, at the discretion of the officer, the individual poses a threat to himself or herself or to others.
From here, about handguns specifically:
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“No incorporated municipality shall have the power to enact any ordinance, rule, or regulation which shall tax, restrict, prevent, or in any way affect the possession or ownership of handguns by the citizens of the state. The entire subject matter of handguns is reserved to the State Legislature. This section shall not be construed to limit or restrict the power of a municipality to adopt ordinances which make the violation of a state handgun law a violation of a municipal ordinance to the same extent as other state law violations . . . ”
And guns in general:
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“(a) No county or municipal corporation, instrumentality, or political subdivision thereof, by ordinance, resolution, or other enactment, shall regulate in any manner gun shows, the possession, ownership, transport, carrying, transfer, sale, purchase, licensing, registration or sue of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, firearms dealers, or dealers, or dealers in firearm components. (b)(1) Subsection (a) does not affect the authority of a municipality has under law to regulate the discharge of firearms within the limits of the municipality or the authority a county has under law enacted prior to August 1, 2000, to regulate the discharge of firearms within the jurisdiction of the county ”
Now, that's just the theory of Alabama. Will someone stand for being declared a criminal to facilitate their own criminal victimization?

GratefulCitizen 02-26-2013 20:09

Article V convention.
Indiana Senate plays the trump card.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...=mod%7Cmostcom

Many states may be in the mood to jump on board.

Badger52 02-26-2013 20:37

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 493446)
Article V convention.
Indiana Senate plays the trump card.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...=mod%7Cmostcom

Many states may be in the mood to jump on board.

Gotta get back to drafting the retirement papers, so will look into further. However, IIRC (and I might not) some may want to look into that a bit more before signing on. No scholar here but in an Article V convention I believe it's all on the table, not just a few things that are pissing you off to call for one. Jes' sayin'.

GratefulCitizen 02-26-2013 20:54

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Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 493451)
Gotta get back to drafting the retirement papers, so will look into further. However, IIRC (and I might not) some may want to look into that a bit more before signing on. No scholar here but in an Article V convention I believe it's all on the table, not just a few things that are pissing you off to call for one. Jes' sayin'.

Still takes 3/4 of the states to ratify any individual amendment proposed.

NurseTim 02-26-2013 22:02

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 493446)
Article V convention.
Indiana Senate plays the trump card.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...=mod%7Cmostcom

Many states may be in the mood to jump on board.

Unintended consequences. I have heard that those that call for CC are sometimes bitten in the butt by their creations. Just be careful of what you wish for is all I'm saying.


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