I just ordered received an adjustable cheek piece for my Rem 700. With my new scope I could not position the rifle beside by face while prone and look through the scope at the same time. This has caused a new flinching habit I hope the cheek piece will assist in solving.

Try this. Stop placing your cheek on the stock. Instead, place the bottom of your jaw on the stock and then let your jaw bone slide down the side of the stock, but not the skin, as you place the full weight of your head on the stock. You will find that this gathers a bunch of skin up between you cheek bone and that hard stock. Your head will be higher and the impact on your cheek bone during recoil will become almost unnoticeable. While this may feel a little awkward at first, you will find it more comfortable and your head will rest much higher on your stock with the full weight of your head still on the stock.

Too many think that a cheek weld is to place your cheek bone on the stock, when it is to place your cheek area on the stock, more skin less bone. Remember to try and never place bone in direct contact with your weapon or on any hard surface. ;)

Thank you Long Range.

I have been practicing a little and it does take some getting used to, but I will make it a habit.

I've had a couple of rifles since I last posted, this is my new favorite. I bought it a few months ago, and even though it's a .308, I still have a blast with it. It shoots sub 1/2 MOA all day and the rifle seems to fit me very well. Although I start going transonic right at 1000 yards when I have a 0 DA, I can load them up a lil hotter and it won't really effect them. At least none that I've noticed. Most of my matches have shots under 800 yards anyway.

Details are below.

Pierce Action
Pierce 20moa Base
Timney 510
Brux 11 Twist, Sendero Contour, 20", 5/8x24" TPI
APA Little Bastard Brake
Manners MCS-T4 w/ Mini chassis.
Bushnell HDMR w/ G2
Badger Rings
Versa-pod w. Versapod Mount
Tab Sling

Been shooting bolt action rifles so long had to consciously pick one up off hand to see were I place mine...it barely touches the stock, just an alignment guide to the sights or scope.

The former sounds painful...

Don't you want your head to rest on the rifle? I mean not putting pressure on it, but you don't want to be holding the weight of your head w/ your neck to get a good sight picture.

Maybe I'm not reading what you're saying correctly.



This is a picture of me w/ my head on the stock. If I'm straight back behind the rifle, I can close my eyes take a couple of breaths, open them and still see right though the scope.

Yes, but I should point out that: 1) The stocks I'm using are cut down so my rifle fits like a glove for off hand or sitting 2) If I have to cock my head it doesn't fit right and will delay alignment for a fast shot. Meaning: I should raise the rifle and it'll be were it should be, no stretching or shifting my head. Can lean in, raise it, and will be aligned on the sights or scope. My cheek (between mouth and nose level) gently touches the stock. Doing this I can still hit a dime with 22-250 or 243 at 50yrds (or quarter at a 100) with 4x4 nikon standing, someday's just a dollar or a tea dish...grin

When checking a rifle I put it in a reinforced cut out cardboard box with towels and rags (high tech), and have to look through the sights or scope with my head cocked in a prone position. (and sometimes get a fat lip too). The reason is that it creates a somewhat consistent barrel vibration as if I were holding it. Kinda like sighting in your rifle w/bipod on sand then expecting the rounds to land in the same place when shooting on a concrete platform. You'd want to be shooting it on a sand platform, least that's my experience with bipod's. Sorry about the detour...

The last time I shot regularly prone was when completing the NRA sharpshooter test, at age 12, other than the above box checking/sighting in or a quick field check. If what you're doing works (ie. alignment) and is consistent, do what Long Range suggested as he has much more experience shooting prone and teaching others than I do.

Hope that clarifies it some.

Awesome, I see what you're saying now. Thanks for taking the time to explain it to me.

Great...Glad I could help

nice stick!
How's the versa-pod running for you?

I thought of doing a review of mine, but I'm reluctant to put any negative point as the owner and the engineer were so nice as they gave me the plant tour. He even let me build my own bipod from literary nuts and bolts right there at the assembly line and charged me 0 $. I like the pan and tilt capability, and it's the fastest one to deploy compared to harris, atlas, brm, etc. Well, the truth is the knob broke just from my trying to tighen the mount to the spigot. Also, the triangle base formed has more acute angle than other model. Thus, it's more wobbly/probe to fall sideways.

Hope you have better experience with yours

One thing about precision shooting, there are NO absolute rights, only absolute wrongs. As an example, jerking the trigger is an absolute wrong. However, always adjust your shooting to your body, do not try to adjust your body to your shooting. If you adjust your shooting you will shoot naturally and comfortably and with great consistency. If you adjust your body, it will tire and your shooting will got to hell.

When I make suggestions, it is just that, suggestions. If it works for you great, if not keep looking. You WILL find that technique that will work for you and your shooting will be natural and not contrived by using techniques that do not fit your body.

As an example, I place full head pressure on my stock when shooting all positions, standing off hand to prone. I know others that do not use full but only some, and then there are those that barely touch the stock. If it works do it. If it does not find what does. ;)

master Rick, between your:
and master Gene Econ's "train the eyes to see, and the finger to move," you two should collaborate and write the next Zen and the Art of ..... series :D Even if the book is only one page, and one paragraph long, it'd be worth it. Throw master Todd H to the mix and the reader is set!

Let's see, Zen and the Art of Lead Slinging? Zen and the Art of Reaching Out and Touching Someone?

Hope all is well! As I came across more current 37 instructors, you sure left quite a lasting impression:D

I liked it, It was really low, but that's just how this one came. I bought it w/ the stock. I've seen harris break as well, not big deal.

I sold that rifle to fund a .260 I had to get back into the 6.5/.264 calibers!

SAC built
SAC Alpha 11
26 inch Bartlein barrel .260
Manners T5A w/ APA bottom metal and badger EFR

1000 yards 7.9 mils w/ 140g Berger Hybrids:lifter

Oh, that's real nice. What twist did you go with?

1:8

That's my buddies surefire on it, I just bought an AAC Cyclone this week. So give me 6-8 months :)

It's been a laser. I took it out to 1100 yards with ease, and yesterday I was trying some different loads out to 300 and 400 yards. The 10 shot group is 8 shots w/ rem brass at 43.6g of H4350 and 2 shots of Nosler brass w/ 43.0 grains. When I was finished I put 3 VLD hunting though the same holes! I'm glad I can switch between the VLDs and the Hybrids w/o an impact shift.