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doctom54 02-21-2013 06:02

Missouri state Senator
 
This guy use to be my neighbor when I lived in MO. He was a state representative and is now a state senator. I don't think the Dems will get their agenda through the MO legislature. If you left out St. Louis and KC MO would be a great state.

http://www.senate.mo.gov/media/13inf...Committees.htm

The next to last paragraph is the pertinent one.

Ret10Echo 02-21-2013 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah Bob (Post 491574)
Colorado sheriffs are opposed to gun control legislation. It doesn't seem to matter right now though. All the bills passed through the House yesterday.:mad:

You're in the same boat as most other's Bob... The dense urban centers are dictating what the rest of the State does (or doesn't do). Our version here in the flatlands is the elitist libo-crowd and the entitlement handout metro counties control the State....the rest suffer.

tonyz 02-21-2013 10:28

The battles are in small towns, too
 
Westford, MA is a reasonably small town in Middlesex County, Massachusetts, United States. The population was approximately 21,951 at the 2010 census. The town sits along Route 495, Blue Star Memorial Highway.


Westford Selectmen Withdraw Proposal To Ban Assault Weapons

By Jim Armstrong, WBZ-TV
February 20, 2013 10:10 PM

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/02/2...sault-weapons/

WESTFORD (CBS) – A thunderous round of applause and a standing ovation greeted the news Wednesday night that a proposed town bylaw to restrict some assault weapons was going to be officially withdrawn.

The overwhelming majority of the close to 400 people who packed a special meeting of the Westford Board of Selectmen opposed the idea.

The man who originally proposed it told the crowd the debate had not gone as he had hoped.

Vice Chairman of the Board of Selectmen Robert Jeffries said, “This was meant to be a discussion within the town of Westford, a community discussion that’s gotten way, way beyond that. We’re not really getting the discussion we want.”

After the meeting, Jeffries added that he had hoped he and his town would not be alone in an effort to restrict assault weapons and high-capacity firearms from the town.

“I thought there would be a [negative] reaction,” Jeffries said. “But I also thought maybe some other towns in Massachusetts might have also tried something similar and none of them did. So it left us isolated as the only ones.”

Westford residents at the meeting felt a sense of relief.

<snip>

David Keene happened to be in Massachusetts on Wednesday night, where he was taking part in a gun control discussion with students at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

Of Westford’s attempt, Keene told WBZ, “One of the things that people in these town meetings and other folks ought to look at is the constitution itself. It is possible and it is legal to put certain restrictions on second amendment rights,” he continued, “but those kinds of restrictions have to be looked at very critically.”

Keene said any attempt to curtail gun ownership is misguided. He cited a recent FBI report on violent crimes when he claimed that hammers kill more Americans every year than guns.

“The murder weapon of choice in this country is the hammer. We’ve never had a three day waiting period for a hammer, although a lot of folks who have to-do lists from their wives might like one,” Keene said.

In fact, that FBI report indicated that “blunt objects” like hammers and clubs are responsible for more deaths than “rifles.” When other weapons like handguns and shotguns are included in the total, firearms then take the lead when it comes to deaths caused.

<snip>

tonyz 02-21-2013 19:36

10 round limits, no online ammo sales, gun free zones, background checks for private transfers, etc., etc.,

N.J. Assembly pulls trigger on gun laws

PUBLISHED FEB 21, 2013 AT 5:15 PM (UPDATED FEB 21, 2013)
The West Milford Messenger

http://westmilfordmessenger.com/apps...er-on-gun-laws

TRENTON – The New Jersey General Assembly on Thursday approved 22 gun violence prevention bills focusing on reforming gun and ammunition sales, improving mental health services, enhancing gun safety, combating illegal gun trafficking, boosting school security and preventing gang violence.

Details on each bill are available at http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/BillsByNumber.asp.

<snip>

The Reaper 02-21-2013 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyz (Post 492591)
10 round limits, no online ammo sales, gun free zones, background checks for private transfers, etc., etc.,

N.J. Assembly pulls trigger on gun laws

PUBLISHED FEB 21, 2013 AT 5:15 PM (UPDATED FEB 21, 2013)
The West Milford Messenger

http://westmilfordmessenger.com/apps...er-on-gun-laws

TRENTON – The New Jersey General Assembly on Thursday approved 22 gun violence prevention bills focusing on reforming gun and ammunition sales, improving mental health services, enhancing gun safety, combating illegal gun trafficking, boosting school security and preventing gang violence.

Details on each bill are available at http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/BillsByNumber.asp.

<snip>

And I bet Christie signs it.

TR

BKKMAN 02-21-2013 20:36

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 492592)
And I bet Christie signs it.

TR

You mean the Democrat in Republican clothing? I fear that you are correct. Christie will most likely sign that laundry list of bills...:mad:

Ret10Echo 02-22-2013 02:45

Latest in PDRM
 
Unsurprising... It is the People's Republic....

The Bill is out of State senate panel for debate in the full senate. I am shocked that the fees were reduced. Reckless tax-and-spend is the standard here. No accountability as the blue-sheeple blow bubbles and eat cheese.


Quote:

Senate Panel Approves Gun Control Bill
Friday, February 22, 2013
Robert Lang and Associated Press

Members of a Maryland Senate committee have made some changes to Governor Martin O'Mullet's gun control bill, but supporters say the bill has largely been kept in tact.
Committee changes....

Rejected amendments that would have eliminated the assault weapons ban, as well as the requirement that handgun purchasers submit to fingerprinting

Cut the license fee for a handgun from $100 to $50. The renewal fee for a license was cut from $100 to $20.

Cut the required number of training hours from eight hours to four hours, cutting the cost of training in half from $150 to $75.

The committee extended the length of handgun license from five years to ten years.

Approved an amendment allowing the Maryland State Police to investigate alleged "straw purchases" of firearms at gun shops.

Prohibit someone from owning a handgun if the person has been involuntarily committed for any duration for mental health reasons.

Prohibit someone from owning a handgun if the person was voluntarily in a mental institution for more than 30 days.

Story here

Badger52 02-22-2013 04:29

States pushing back to any success that might come out of DC, states firing up their own versions possibly out of lack of confidence in the Central Committee in DC being able to get it done. Pretty clear polarization, which plays well for the administration - makes 420 cuts instead of 1,000 an easier sell and lots of points for 2A supporters to have to defend against.

Local, local, local.

Utah Bob 02-22-2013 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by BKKMAN (Post 492611)
You mean the Democrat in Republican clothing? I fear that you are correct. Christie will most likely sign that laundry list of bills...:mad:

It would not surprise me to see him switch parties in the future.

pcfixer 02-23-2013 13:38

Maryland Rally
 
Dan Bongino @ Guns Across America Rally in Annapolis, MD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=-wPs7UZ5ufM#!


Very well spoken speech.

BKKMAN 02-23-2013 14:12

The Great Oregon Gun Grab
 
After reading this bill, you can't possibly not be left stupefied at the lengths that Democrats will go in this assault on the 2nd Amendment...

Better Get The Underground Activated Soon

Oregonians would be required to surrender their assault weapons and "high capacity" magazines within 120 days of the signing of the bill into law (based on the "emergency" declaration in Section 6). Those currently in possession of assault weapons/magazines would be allowed to retain ONE assault weapon and THREE magazines...

From Section 4:

Quote:

(5) A registered owner of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine is required to:
(a) Securely store the assault weapon or large capacity magazine pursuant to rules and regulations adopted by the department;
(b) Allow an inspector from the department to inspect the storage of assault weapons and large capacity magazines to ensure compliance with this subsection;
From Section 5:

Quote:

(4) The department may conduct inspections of registered owners of assault weapons and large capacity magazines to ensure compliance with the storage requirements of section 4 of this 2013 Act.
From Section 6:

Quote:

This 2013 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and this 2013 Act takes effect on its passage.
The Section 6 declaration of "emergency", which puts the law into effect immediately upon passage, coupled with the very loose/generic wording for both the storage and inspection of assault weapons and magazines is troubling:

Quote:

Securely store the assault weapon or large capacity magazine pursuant to rules and regulations adopted by the department
AND

Quote:

The department may conduct inspections of registered owners of assault weapons and large capacity magazines to ensure compliance with the storage requirements of section 4 of this 2013 Act.
What if they deem that the only "sufficient" storage is a $4000+ gun safe? And another safe to store the firing pins in?

How often do they get to "inspect" the storage of these weapons? Do they have to give notice of the inspections? What if they discover some other violation (drugs, etc.) when they are conducting the inspection of weapons storage? Is that "off limits" because the primary purpose of the visit was the inspection of weapons storage? Are there even limits to this warrantless search/inspection?

May you live in interesting times indeed...

Pete 02-23-2013 14:53

4th Amd Issue
 
This appears to be a 4th And Issue but................

The law says you must register your weapon. By registering your weapon you give permission for the search. So they can search.

But if you don't register they don't know for sure you have one - BUT - they can't search without a warrant.

That whole bill is just so stupid - and it's written by folks who got a lot of people's votes.

The Supreme Court is where the 2nd Amd will live or die. 3 1/2 years to sweat it out.

Badger52 02-23-2013 16:35

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Originally Posted by Pete (Post 492964)
The Supreme Court is where the 2nd Amd will live or die. 3 1/2 years to sweat it out.

Heh. Given the potential alternative, I raise my coffee cup for their continued health & thorough continued enjoyment of their position within their chosen calling.

argghh...
:rolleyes:

GratefulCitizen 02-23-2013 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 492964)
The Supreme Court is where the 2nd Amd will live or die. 3 1/2 years to sweat it out.

I refuse to relinquish my inalienable rights to the opinion of 5 people.

Step 1: Fight it at the ballot box. Should that fail...
Step 2: Pressure legislators. Should that fail...
Step 3: Fight it in the courts. Should that fail...
Step 4: Refuse to comply/ overwhelm enforcement capabilities with civil disobedience. Should that fail...
Step 5: Engage in an open campaign promoting jury nullification/ overwhelm the legal system. Should that fail...
Step 6: If we reach this point, we've long since lost legitimate government.

The whole while, educate as many as will hear and sternly inform the gun grabbers that they will NEVER get their way, NO MATTER THE COST.

Molon labe.

MR2 02-23-2013 19:32

F' Molon labe, what's Greek for 'We're Coming for your Ass!'?


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