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Hand 01-30-2013 07:41

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 485154)
It unfortunate that certain organizations and individuals are increasingly mentioned only as punch lines to "jokes."

Source is here.


Just the organization Sigaba. Furthermore, I feel that the NAACP has had its day, which has passed, much like the need for labor unions has come and gone. Since when is supporting gay 'rights' encompassed under the charter of combating racial prejudice and promoting racial equality?

We have elected a black man to the highest office in the land. When can we set down this self serving argument that we are a prejudiced nation?

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Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 485154)
Let's not worry about outreach, diversification, different ideas, and new methods. Let's not consider finding the common areas of concern among blacks, Second Amendment advocates, and LEOs IRT violence against children. After all, the GOP has the current president figured out to a T--that's why the Republican candidates did so brilliantly in the last two presidential elections.

But hey, it is all in good, ironic fun. Anything for a laugh.

Ultimately the issue in the OP is that of leaving alone a right that our founders believed we had before the Constitution was written. To me, there is no need to find common ground with anyone on this one. Its like finding the common denominator in peoples basic right to breathe oxygen for free.

Paslode 01-30-2013 08:26

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Originally Posted by Hand (Post 486514)
Just the organization Sigaba. Furthermore, I feel that the NAACP has had its day, which has passed, much like the need for labor unions has come and gone. Since when is supporting gay 'rights' encompassed under the charter of combating racial prejudice and promoting racial equality?

If we all get along and leave each other alone there would be no need for a long list of special interest groups and the people associated with them.

Problems equates Paychecks.

Hand 01-30-2013 08:40

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 486525)
If we all get along and leave each other alone there would be no need for a long list of special interest groups and the people associated with them.

Problems equates Paychecks.

Bingo! Which goes along with something I was thinking about this morning, not saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. I learned a lot about patriotism as a child, and I stood each morning, proudly with my hand over my heart as I recited that pledge. I remember tripping over the word "indivisible" when I was a boy. Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Of all the things that busy a child during their day, that pledge is the one thing that helps remind them that they are a very small part of a bigger thing, a nation. Without that reminder, they are just little people with no common cause, only things which so divide us: religion, skin color, economic status etc.

If we could, as a nation, work towards indivisibility, instead of division on every level, imagine what a different nation this would be.

MR2 01-30-2013 09:01

...and from the land of Wolverines...

Fort Collins students read Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic

PSM 01-30-2013 09:17

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 486535)
...and from the land of Wolverines...

Fort Collins students read Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic

Is Boulder bleeding over into Larimer County? :confused:

Pat

Richard 01-30-2013 09:31

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 486535)
Fort Collins students read Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic

I'd be glad to help them with their German.

Ich verspreche allegience, der Flagge, der Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika, und der Republik, für die sie steht, eine Nation unter Gott, unteilbar, mit Freiheit und Gerechtigkeit für alle.

But I'm a bit rusty, I haven't used it much over the last few decades...except I did get to use it a couple of weeks ago to speak to a couple from near Rostock who we met at the Grgich Hills winery in Rutherford. Visitors are always surprised to encounter Americans who are multi-lingual; their perceptions seem to be that we don't care much about other languages or cultures. ;)

Richard
:munchin

Badger52 01-30-2013 10:50

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Originally Posted by Richard (Post 486542)
except I did get to use it a couple of weeks ago to speak to a couple from near Rostock who we met at the Grgich Hills winery in Rutherford.

Neat Richard, that must've been very cool. The Rostock area was a popular destination way "back in the day", but it wasn't because of wineries.
:cool:

ZonieDiver 01-30-2013 13:10

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 486535)
...and from the land of Wolverines...

Fort Collins students read Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic

As long as they're saying the Pledge, if they occasionally lapse into Klingon, it's okay by me. Geeks need to say the Pledge, too! :D

GratefulCitizen 01-30-2013 22:49

Wyoming: http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Bills/HB0105.pdf

Best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

Badger52 01-31-2013 04:25

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen (Post 486904)
Wyoming: http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Bills/HB0105.pdf

Best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

:D
From a report in the paper to the state house, and entitled "Citizens' and Students' Self-Defense Act."

Total, including refs & necessary corrections to underlying statutes, 3 pages, double-spaced. These guys are doing something right.

GratefulCitizen 01-31-2013 09:41

Colorado:
http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/cli...ILE/009_01.pdf

First line of defense.

GratefulCitizen 02-01-2013 21:11

Illinois concealed carry: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...cSess=&Session

This is starting to get interesting.
:munchin

Issuing authorities would have to prove why someone shouldn't receive a license.

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the Department shall have the burden of proving by clear and convincing evidence that the applicant would pose a danger to the applicant's self, another, or public safety, or would use a firearm unlawfully, if granted a license to carry a concealed firearm under this Act.
And...

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If the court decides that the reason for the denial was arbitrary, capricious, malicious, or without merit, the court shall award punitive damages.
Concerning reciprocity:
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The Department shall enter into reciprocal agreements with any other state whose requirements to obtain a license or permit is substantially similar to those requirements contained in Section 85.

GratefulCitizen 02-01-2013 22:18

Montana lending some common sense to schools:
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2013/lchtml/LC1672.htm

Passing a law to clarify that a "finger gun" is not actually a gun.
Sadly, such laws now are necessary.

GratefulCitizen 02-02-2013 19:34

South Carolina: http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess120_.../bills/247.htm

Exempts "unorganized militia" from federal gun laws.
Seems pretty consistent with the 2nd Amendment.
:munchin

GratefulCitizen 02-04-2013 22:53

An interesting article addressing the theme of this thread:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...a-gun-controls


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