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The Reaper 07-09-2011 09:31

Surface area allows radiation of heat.

Greater surface area (and greater mass) equals faster cooling.

Formula for area of a cylinder (barrel) will show this.

Thicker barrels may be stiffer, but all have harmonics, and those will likely change as the barrel heats up.

Some shorter or lighter barrels may shoot just as well as a thick one for a few rounds.

For most rifle hunting, barrel diameter is probably irrelevant. For a belt fed, it is critical.

TR

GratefulCitizen 07-09-2011 18:52

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 402785)
Surface area allows radiation of heat.

Greater surface area (and greater mass) equals faster cooling.

Formula for area of a cylinder (barrel) will show this.

Thicker barrels may be stiffer, but all have harmonics, and those will likely change as the barrel heats up.

Some shorter or lighter barrels may shoot just as well as a thick one for a few rounds.

For most rifle hunting, barrel diameter is probably irrelevant. For a belt fed, it is critical.

TR

Painted the block and tinware of my hotrod's engine flat black because of the better thermal emissivity.
It assists in cooling.

Curious to know if such things have been done with machine gun barrels.
(Not sure if non-insulating paints are made which will stay on in those temperature ranges).

Ramirez 07-09-2011 18:53

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 402784)
Learn to read the wind.



That's something I try and do every time I walk outside of the house. I need to pick me up a wind meter, to see if my guesses are right. You should see my wife laugh at me. The wind will pick up and i'll be standing there like a tard. She says it looks like I was lost in thought.

Dusty 07-09-2011 19:02

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Originally Posted by Ramirez (Post 402847)
That's something I try and do every time I walk outside of the house. I need to pick me up a wind meter, to see if my guesses are right. You should see my wife laugh at me. The wind will pick up and i'll be standing there like a tard. She says it looks like I was lost in thought.

One of the best snipers I know "sees" it, like a "fish swimming".

Buffalobob 07-10-2011 15:02

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I need to pick me up a wind meter, to see if my guesses are right.
This is about as good of an article as I have seen for reading the wind for hunting purposes. You should copy the indicators to your computer and then take them to the field with you. For competition, there are other methods which usually involve angles of the wind flags or watching mirage by adjusting your parallax knob.

http://www.longrangehunting.com/arti...ading-wind.php

The thing about wind meters is that they only measure the wind where you are. They do not measure wind out in the valley nor over at the target.

Ramirez 07-25-2011 10:14

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 402849)
One of the best snipers I know "sees" it, like a "fish swimming".



one day:lifter

Team Sergeant 07-25-2011 10:20

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Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 402849)
One of the best snipers I know "sees" it, like a "fish swimming".

After you've watched enough "trace" you'd know that's exactly what it looks like, "fish swimming".

Dusty 07-25-2011 11:12

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant (Post 405583)
After you've watched enough "trace" you'd know that's exactly what it looks like, "fish swimming".

I watch trace every time I spot-I can see it pretty easily most of the time. What I can't see is wind. I can see the effects of it-that's as close as I get.

I believe Suttles actually sees the wind.

MVP 07-25-2011 13:34

wind
 
Dusty,

Put yor spotting scope lsightly out of focus then you will see the rising heat waves. It looks like the "mirage" that rises off the road on a hot day. Despending on the velocity and direction of the wind the waves will rise at varying angles. Guess I am a little late in advising you to attend the unit level SOTIC...

MVP

Dusty 07-25-2011 14:09

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Originally Posted by MVP (Post 405608)
Dusty,

Put yor spotting scope lsightly out of focus then you will see the rising heat waves. It looks like the "mirage" that rises off the road on a hot day. Despending on the velocity and direction of the wind the waves will rise at varying angles. Guess I am a little late in advising you to attend the unit level SOTIC...

MVP

Oh, I know what you mean, and thanks for the advice.

I'm not talking about mirage, though-I guess I just am unable to explain what I mean.

This guy "sees" the wind. He says it looks like a "fish". Maybe he can explain it-I'm sure he still works out at Badlands...

Ramirez 07-25-2011 16:16

I also did shot second match over the weekend. It was a "low light" match that started at 7PM and ended around midnight. I scored around the middle of the pack. That was a big improvement over the last match.(DFL) Having the AICS which fed well really helped. Also the new trigger was an upgrade.


:lifter

Dusty 07-26-2011 06:07

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 405700)
I THINK I know what you are saying. Where you are at you may have 3-5 mph full value from the left, at 100 to say 200 yards it is 1/2 value coming from the right, at 200 to 400 zero value, 400 to 600 1/2 value from right then 600 to 800 full value from left. (example)

It that what you are trying to explain? BTW I am far from being SOTIC material just understand the theory. I have hunted with a guy that was an amazing shot. Like you said, he eyeballed everything and when he pulled the trigger on a deer it was head or neck only and long range ie 400+ yards. I never seen him miss although he said he occasionally did.

I guess. Might just be experience. Steve got signed off on a kill out past 1200 yards in Nam.

I just need to shoot more...;)

Ramirez 09-04-2011 09:06

3 Attachment(s)
I picked up a new long range rig, dropped it in my AICS


Blue printed 700 Action
Shilen match barrel 1:10 twist #5 contour finished at 24"
Bolt spiral fluted with badger knob
Nightforce 20 MOA base.
Gretan firing pin Assembly.
Timney Trigger @ 2lbs.
Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56


Took it out to 1000 yards yesterday. I was able to hit Clays out to 803 yards, @ 1010 I was hitting pretty close to them, but for me that was close enough.

The guys I was with could really read wind well and were helping me w/ wind calls. That's what I'm spending as much time as I can on. The scope pic is @ 1010 yards, you can hardly see the clays.

Team Sergeant 09-04-2011 09:19

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 405700)
I THINK I know what you are saying. Where you are at you may have 3-5 mph full value from the left, at 100 to say 200 yards it is 1/2 value coming from the right, at 200 to 400 zero value, 400 to 600 1/2 value from right then 600 to 800 full value from left. (example)

And when you "see" trace from a bullet following that path it does indeed look like a "fish in the wind".


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